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Mark Steyn: A lie makes Obamacare legal
OC Register ^ | 6/29/12 | MARK STEYN

Posted on 06/29/2012 10:19:24 AM PDT by listenhillary

Three months ago, I quoted George Jonas on the 30th anniversary of Canada's ghastly "Charter of Rights and Freedoms": "There seems to be an inverse relationship between written instruments of freedom, such as a Charter, and freedom itself," wrote Jonas. "It's as if freedom were too fragile to be put into words: If you write down your rights and freedoms, you lose them."

For longer than one might have expected, the U.S. Constitution was a happy exception to that general rule – until, that is, the contortions required to reconcile a republic of limited government with the ambitions of statism rendered U.S. constitutionalism increasingly absurd.

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


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To: ME-262
Coming soon: New legislation states all conservatives to be castrated under ObamaCare/RobertsTax. Roberts claims it is not a violation of the legislatures enumerated powers, "it is just a testicle tax".

A lot of people on testosterone commit crimes! The govt could easily make the case against it and declare it a controlled substance.

(Do I need the sarky? /s )

21 posted on 06/29/2012 1:14:27 PM PDT by Lady Lucky (If you believe what you're saying, quit making taxable income. Starve the beast.)
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To: dead
Only in America does "health" "care" "reform" begin with the hiring of 16,500 new IRS agents tasked with determining whether your insurance policy merits a fine. It is the perverse genius of Obamacare that it will kill off what's left of a truly private health sector without leading to a truly universal system. However, it will be catastrophically unaffordable, hideously bureaucratic, and ever more coercive. So what's not to like?

Just wondering at what point citizen anger will flash....

22 posted on 06/29/2012 1:46:43 PM PDT by Rapscallion (Defy by silence)
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To: listenhillary

Brilliant analysis as usual from Mr. Stein.

John Roberts screwed this country over so royally we will likely never recover from his idiocy.


23 posted on 06/29/2012 1:52:48 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: Lady Lucky

I was in a group once where the speaker asked people to name the person they thought may have been the most intelligent of all recorded in history. At the end he said Da Vinci was generally considered tops but I voted for Ben Franklin and I am still not sure I was wrong. Certainly when it comes to the understanding of human nature he must be very near the top.


24 posted on 06/29/2012 1:55:31 PM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: Lady Lucky

(Do I need the sarky? /s )
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Not only do you not need it, in the current corrupt condition of our “government” that does not even qualify as sarcasm but rather should be considered a reasonable observation on future possibilities.


25 posted on 06/29/2012 1:59:00 PM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: Theophilus

Love Steyn but he must be kidding. It’s never been clearer to me that it is not “down to the people”, it never has been.


Other than electing conservatives to the lower offices. All we have is a inkling of hope we can make Romney do the right thing.
Really? Who is gonna do that..Boehner? McCain? Rove?

I’m encouraging everyone to go on Welfare as a stategic move. Overwhelm the system. If they insist on BIG G’mint than lets all get some!


26 posted on 06/29/2012 2:03:54 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the StatistI)
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To: RipSawyer

Up is sideways and green is red, the sky is underground and tomorrow is yesterday......That statement should qualify me to be a Supreme


27 posted on 06/29/2012 2:08:24 PM PDT by KTM rider
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To: RipSawyer

Up is sideways and green is red, the sky is underground and tomorrow is yesterday......That statement should qualify me to be a Supreme


28 posted on 06/29/2012 2:09:27 PM PDT by KTM rider
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To: Lady Lucky; All
Love that Franklin statement!

Here is another excerpt from the same volume as the ". . . Living Constitution" essay cited above:

"It was John Adams who said: "The foundation of every government is some principle or passion in the minds of the people." Clearly, the Founders' passion was liberty, and in order to secure that liberty, they sought out and incor­porated into the United States Constitution those ideas and principles embodied in the Declaration of Independence.

"The French historian, Guizot, once asked James Russell Lowell, "How long will the American republic endure?" Lowell replied: "As long as the IDEAS of the men who founded it continue dominant."

"Herein lies the answer to the question, "Will the Experiment Succeed?"

"It can and will succeed IF the motivating "principle or passion in the minds of the people" is LIBERTY, and if that passion causes them to exert the determination and will to complete the needed restoration of the IDEAS upon which the great American experiment was based."

Romney and the Republican had better get on board quickly with providing voters a sharp and distinct set of IDEAS of LIBERTY, and how those ideas contrast with Obama and the Dem's COUNTERFEIT ideas of SLAVERY TO GOVERNMENT AND LOSS OF INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM.

The "jobs" argument is the one the Dems want, because it keeps attention off the underlying cause of job loss, which is loss of individual freedom under a cadre of power-hungry political hacks.

29 posted on 06/29/2012 2:16:54 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Leep

You know there is a big disadvantage we have on our side. We attempt to fight fair and over the board.
We are doing battle against people who lie, cheat, steal, propagandize 80% of the media “news” ..Not to mention encourage dead people and illegals to vote and use our system against us.

Hide your money if you have any and go on the g’mint dole and then give the money away to conservative causes...:)
There is no other way, short of a violent over re-taking of our country. I’m saying if Obama gets re-elected or Romney is a Herbert (Star Trek reference).


30 posted on 06/29/2012 2:19:56 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the StatistI)
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To: Sherman Logan
Conservatives had about six opportunities to unite behind a non-Romney over most of a year.

I did not get a chance to vote against Romney until May. How come Kentucky has to vote last while states that go to the Democrats get to vote first? Put the blame on me. It won't make me care any less.

31 posted on 06/29/2012 3:33:03 PM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: Leep

The TEA Party voting for Romney is like the Sons of Liberty voting for Benedict Arnold because they lost the Revolution.


32 posted on 06/29/2012 3:36:45 PM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: Theophilus

Our primary is in May, too. Santorum was still on my ballot, so I voted for him, even though he wasn’t in the race anymore. He got quite a few votes in this area, actually, and so did Gingrich.


33 posted on 06/29/2012 4:47:11 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("The Lord will rescue me from every evil threat and bring me safe to His heavenly kingdom.")
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To: KTM rider

Not just any Supreme, you could be Diana Ross herself, the chief Supreme. She makes more sense than Roberts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GtyMeEcPPE


34 posted on 06/29/2012 4:50:18 PM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: listenhillary

There is no legal authority for Congress or USG to direct tax on this manner.

“The present Constitution is the standard to which we are to cling. Under its banners, bona fide must we combat our political foes - rejecting all changes but through the channel itself provides for amendments.”
— Alexander Hamilton (letter to James Bayard, April 1802)


35 posted on 06/29/2012 5:00:02 PM PDT by veracious
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To: Leep

“You know there is a big disadvantage we have on our side. We attempt to fight fair and over the board.
We are doing battle against people who lie, cheat, steal, propagandize 80% of the media “news” ..Not to mention encourage dead people and illegals to vote and use our system against us.”

I couldn’t agree more. I heard a pundit on FOX last night saying how Americans hate a divided govt. and will look at Repubs going after Holder as causing the divide, the old can’t everyone get a long mantra. I say fight fire with fire, no more Mr. Nice Guy mambie-pambie crap a la McCain, that worked out ducky didn’t it? GROW A PAIR ALREADY!!!


36 posted on 06/29/2012 7:34:27 PM PDT by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42-12/17/45, d. 11/1/85)
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To: wayoverontheright
Of course there is. This decision is devoid of logic. And maybe Einstein Roberts will explain some day how a president can "waive" taxes for politically favored groups of individuals purely on his own personal whim.
37 posted on 06/29/2012 8:01:06 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: RipSawyer
Ben Franklin was far better known and more revered in Europe than he was in post-colonial America. He was a real Renaissance man.
38 posted on 06/29/2012 8:05:11 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: JLS

Ping!


39 posted on 06/29/2012 9:40:51 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: TheOldLady; Rummyfan; Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; ...

Mark Steyn ping.

Freepmail me, if you want on or off the Mark Steyn ping list.

Thanks for the ping Slings and Arrows.


40 posted on 06/29/2012 10:11:34 PM PDT by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress))
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