[NoLibZone]

Props to BobL for pointing this out to me.

[TomT in NJ]

If this monstrosity is really a tax, then why is a filibuster-proof majority needed? Furthermore, it was originally passed as a spending bill to avoid a filibuster. So I’m not sure why commentators keep repeating that a filibuster proof majority is needed to repeal.

[Vince Ferrer]

Entitlements are never repealed.

But our entitlements, even without Obamacare, are unsustainable. They will eventually all go at the same time.

[smokingfrog]

Highlights of how Obamacare screws seniors:

2010
Medicare cuts to inpatient psych hospitals (7/1/10)
Medicare Advantage cuts begin
Medicare cuts to home health begin
Wealthier seniors ($85K/$170K) begin paying higher Part D premiums (not indexed for inflation in Parts B/D)
Medicare reimbursement cuts when seniors use diagnostic imaging like MRIs, CT scans, etc.
Medicare cuts begin to ambulance services, ASCs, diagnostic labs, and durable medical equipment
Impose new annual tax on brand name pharmaceutical companies which will raise drug prices
Americans begin paying premiums for federal long-term care insurance (CLASS Act)

2011
Prohibition on Medicare payments to new physician-owned hospitals
Seniors prohibited from purchasing power wheelchairs unless they first rent for 13 months
New Medicare cuts to long-term care hospitals begin (7/1/11)

2012
Additional Medicare cuts to hospitals and cuts to nursing homes and inpatient rehab facilities begin (FY12)
New tax on all private health insurance policies to pay for comp. eff. research (plan years beginning FY12)

[uncbob]

Is this crazy

The GOP was warning that it was in reality a TAX and Obama and the DEMs arguing that it wasn’t

So Roberts says the GOP was right and Obama was wrong so it is constitutional

My brain hurts

[ICCtheWay]

How to Demolish obamacare ... First off - Romney, if he is elected - and telling the truth - says he will in his first hour as President - ‘Waive the obamacare requirement for all 50 states - as obama has done already for Nevada). Whatever the Senate/House origins of the obamacare bill it is now officially declared a TAX... Argue for years whether it originated in the House or the Senate... but this argument is not needed... If this obamacare monstrosity is a tax bill says SCOTUS - then Revoking this Tax bill should not take a Congressional Super Majority next term under a Republican President ... rather a simple majority of the U.S. House of Representatives could revoke the taxing authority of the obamacare law... and the Senate could concur with just sixty (60) votes at maximum (or perhaps only 51 votes depending upon how it is handled - maybe in the same way as the original bill - ‘reconciliation’ comes to mind). Then President Romney could sign the House and Senate passed Bill into law revoking the taxing authority of obamacare. The insurance mandate of obamacare would then be dead - having no taxing teeth and it will come to a halt in its cancerous spread. Then the rest of the neutered - dormant obamacare law could be dismantled piece by piece over the next one - two years.

[SuziQ]

Even if Republicans somehow summoned the political will to try, they would first need to win the presidency and a filibuster-proof majority in the U.S. Senate.

No filibuster proof majority necessary, only 51 votes are needed to repeal Obamacare.

[BobL]

Glad to help, thanks for posting it.

As I said on the other thread, there is hope. Now the politicians have to play it right and MAKE IT CLEAR that the huge increases in premiums and reductions in benefits, and loss of providers, is simply due to the redistribution in this bill.

If they do that, they may be able to kill it. If not...then we’re stuck with it.

[Vigilanteman]

How many Freepers are old enough to remember this sorry scene and how it came about?

In April 1975, a new congress freshly swollen with a super majority of Democrats elected in the post-Watergate hissy fit, gave the North Vietnamese army the courage they needed to tear up the armistice signed to end the Vietnam War just two years earlier.

The U.S. had a treaty obligation with South Vietnam to provide naval support in shelling the the invasion route to the south in the event of the North violated the armistice. President Ford pleaded with congress to allow him to provide that naval support at little or no risk to American lives to slow the invasion.

Congress would have none of it and responded by cutting off all military funding for that purpose. With no support and no chance to organize their defense, the south fell within days to the lightning attack. People who had risked their lives to save American soldiers and pilots grappled for places in line to get on the last helicopters to evacuate the American Embassy in Saigon.

If congress could cut off funding in 1975 to betray an ally, why can't they do it in 2012 to block implementation of a dictatoral law?