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The Constitution says all bills for raising revenue must originate in the House.
The National Archives ^ | 1787 | The Framers

Posted on 06/28/2012 8:02:50 PM PDT by E Rocc

Article I, Section. 7.

All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

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Didn't the House approve the Senate's version of the bill in order to prevent a filibuster? Now that it's been declared a "tax"....
1 posted on 06/28/2012 8:02:58 PM PDT by E Rocc
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To: E Rocc

Fifth time asked today.


2 posted on 06/28/2012 8:04:36 PM PDT by Perdogg
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What’s a Constitution? I’m confused.

I heard on Oprah it has something to do with bowel movements.


4 posted on 06/28/2012 8:08:31 PM PDT by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: E Rocc

The Constitution is still being brought up as though it is relevent?


5 posted on 06/28/2012 8:09:29 PM PDT by deadrock
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To: Perdogg
All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

You assume that the Constitution is still valid. That thing was abandoned long ago.

6 posted on 06/28/2012 8:10:29 PM PDT by rapture-me
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To: Perdogg; E Rocc

What’s a Constitution? I’m confused.

I heard on Oprah it has something to do with bowel movements.


7 posted on 06/28/2012 8:11:21 PM PDT by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: E Rocc
"The Constitution says All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives"

Our Courageous Young President says "Pfftt!"

8 posted on 06/28/2012 8:12:07 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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Roberts' decision does not change the Constitution!

So let's stop talking about the Country and Constitution in the past tense!

9 posted on 06/28/2012 8:14:49 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your damn Change!)
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To: E Rocc

A whole lot of deemin’ out there. Congress deemed the other chamber passed it. The SCOTUS deemed tbat a mandate is a tax. Kardashian lied, freedom and liberty died. SCOTUS legislating from the bench. We are SO skrewed.


10 posted on 06/28/2012 8:16:30 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: DEADROCK

The old USSR was said to have had a Constitution that the Soviet Government ignored. Now the USA also has a constitution the formerly non-Fascist USA Government ignores.


11 posted on 06/28/2012 8:23:46 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (Are there any Democrats who are not racist fascists?.)
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To: E Rocc

Is this crazy

The GOP was warning that it was in reality a TAX and Obama and the DEMs arguing that it wasn’t

So Roberts says the GOP was right and Obama was wrong so it is constitutional

My brain hurts


12 posted on 06/28/2012 8:28:23 PM PDT by uncbob
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From 2009: Passing a Shell of A Bill: Congress’ Secret Plan to Ram Through Health Care Reform

It explains how to take a House bill and use the Senate amendment process to introduce new spending bill that was "technically" introduced by the House.

-PJ

13 posted on 06/28/2012 8:30:00 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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How to Demolish obamacare ... First off - Romney, if he is elected - and telling the truth - says he will in his first hour as President - ‘Waive the obamacare requirement for all 50 states - as obama has done already for Nevada). Whatever the Senate/House origins of the obamacare bill it is now officially declared a TAX... Argue for years whether it originated in the House or the Senate... but this argument is not needed... If this obamacare monstrosity is a tax bill says SCOTUS - then Revoking this Tax bill should not take a Congressional Super Majority next term under a Republican President ... rather a simple majority of the U.S. House of Representatives could revoke the taxing authority of the obamacare law... and the Senate could concur with just sixty (60) votes at maximum (or perhaps only 51 votes depending upon how it is handled - maybe in the same way as the original bill - ‘reconciliation’ comes to mind). Then President Romney could sign the House and Senate passed Bill into law revoking the taxing authority of obamacare. The insurance mandate of obamacare would then be dead - having no taxing teeth and it will come to a halt in its cancerous spread. Then the rest of the neutered - dormant obamacare law could be dismantled piece by piece over the next one - two years.


14 posted on 06/28/2012 8:32:24 PM PDT by ICCtheWay
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What’s a Constitution? I’m confused.

That's easy. It's an old sailing ship also called “Old Ironsides”.

15 posted on 06/28/2012 8:32:46 PM PDT by Know et al (The greatest argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with a voter: Churchill)
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To: E Rocc

King hussein will do what pleases him. His lackies in congress and the senate will do his bidding. If you think you can stop him, you are in for a long uphill battle. Obama is an arrogant prick who knows how to manipulate people, and he is pulling no punches right now. Conservatives are going tto have to start fighting dirty, just like obama, if they have any hope of taking this country back.


16 posted on 06/28/2012 8:46:22 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: E Rocc

As others have said. It started off as a shell house bill...

Go as Roberts if he cares and get back to me.


17 posted on 06/28/2012 8:53:33 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: E Rocc

As others have said. It started off as a shell house bill...

Go ask Roberts if he cares and get back to me.


18 posted on 06/28/2012 8:53:46 PM PDT by cableguymn
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:The bill that passed the Senate wasn’t technically a Senate bill. Reid took a bill that had already passed the House, stripped out the provisions to turn it into a “shell bill,” and then inserted the text of ObamaCare to get around this requirement. The bill that passed the Senate was H.R.3590, which initially had to do with tax breaks for military homeowners. And yes, they’ve used the “shell bill” strategy before. In fact, the conservative opinion today specifically mentioned Article I, section 7 at one point while raising no objection to Reid’s sleight of hand.”

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/06/28/say-doesnt-the-constitution-require-tax-bills-to-originate-in-the-house/


19 posted on 06/28/2012 8:54:12 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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What is "the Constitution"?
20 posted on 06/28/2012 9:05:08 PM PDT by Baynative (REMEMBER: Without America there is no free world!)
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