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What Happened to John Roberts?
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | June 28, 2012 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 06/28/2012 3:38:24 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: stephenjohnbanker
It turns out they didn’t have to. The chief judge found it! He said (summarized), “You know what? I’m just gonna call it a tax. The government can do that. They can’t make everybody buy health insurance with the mandate, but they can with the tax code.” That’s what happened today. It’s an appalling, disgraceful decision. “ Rush nailed it.

That's the way I see it.

181 posted on 06/29/2012 1:10:11 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; DoughtyOne; Impy; NFHale
Not that Dems needed any encouragement from the SCOTUS...


182 posted on 06/29/2012 1:14:27 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: Windcatcher; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Obama granted exemptions to upwards of 1,000 companies, including unions. Romney could exempt all 50 states, under this reasoning.


183 posted on 06/29/2012 1:14:49 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Good one.....and accurate.


184 posted on 06/29/2012 1:15:58 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: e_castillo

How does being on meds decide if you’re to be a conservative or lib or liar? I would think that if you are on meds you have the responsibility to read and re-read and do over everything you do so no mistakes are made DUE to the fact you are on meds. Especially if you are a Supreme Court Justice. You aren’t quite balancing your checkbook


185 posted on 06/29/2012 2:21:24 PM PDT by cutexx
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To: e_castillo

How does being on meds decide if you’re to be a conservative or lib or liar? I would think that if you are on meds you have the responsibility to read and re-read and do over everything important that you do so no mistakes are made DUE to the fact you are on meds. Especially if you are a Supreme Court Justice. You aren’t quite balancing your checkbook you know....


186 posted on 06/29/2012 2:23:16 PM PDT by cutexx
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Of note—Lewis Carroll wrote fantasy stories.


187 posted on 06/29/2012 4:05:31 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: sickoflibs

“not nearly as dramatic as many here are making out”

But it allows for the authority to tax behavior. Therefore it is even more dramatic than most have yet to comprehend.


188 posted on 06/29/2012 4:06:00 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: reasonisfaith
Of note—Lewis Carroll wrote fantasy stories.

I would say that Roberts has written a fantasy opinion, legal sophistry.

189 posted on 06/29/2012 4:29:49 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Aptly stated. And each smaller fantasy is connected in some way to a larger one.

Ultimately, the Marxist fantasy comes from the larger fantasy that evil will triumph over good.


190 posted on 06/29/2012 5:43:19 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: reasonisfaith; dalebert; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; ...
RE “not nearly as dramatic as many here are making out”
But it allows for the authority to tax behavior. Therefore it is even more dramatic than most have yet to comprehend.

I paid less in taxes for insulating my house.

Suppose Obama-care raised all income taxes by 2% but at the same time offered a health tax credit of 2% for buying Obama-approved insurance? So in effect you paid more taxes today than yesterday if you didn't get the Obama insurance.

Could the Feds raise income taxes before this?
Could the Feds bribe me to behave the way they want with a tax credit before this?

You know the answer.
This case did not alter the rotation of the planets. Now that cowardly Republicans didn't get the SCOTUS to do their jobs, we must demand that they do it. The type of drama going on the past two days does nothing for me.

191 posted on 06/29/2012 8:37:24 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: sickoflibs
I have a question that so far not a single Freeper has addressed, that I've seen:

If this thing is founded upon a tax or taxes to be accurate, is it Constitutionally allowed that little barry bastard commie can unilaterally exempt groups from this legally passed tax?

Has the Oval Office stinker just given himself unenumerated powers? And what the hell can the Congress do about it?

192 posted on 06/29/2012 8:44:20 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN
RE :”I have a question that so far not a single Freeper has addressed, that I've seen:
If this thing is founded upon a tax or taxes to be accurate, is it Constitutionally allowed that little barry bastard commie can unilaterally exempt groups from this legally passed tax?

That is a interesting question. I appreciate it.
You are probably thinking about Obama’s amnesty order with respect to immigration claiming it is an enforcement directive (I still don't understand how that applies to work visas) and now trying it on taxation.

I think the immigration law has a bunch of loopholes in it like issuing visas to those who are politically oppressed to allow him to get away with that. In spite of lots of talk I see no group challenging it legally in court.

The tax law is very complex and specifically specifies all sorts of favored and unfavored groups so I don't believe he could issue an order to the IRS directing them to give refunds to a specific group (contrary to the law) without getting into serious trouble.

Remember, the immigration order was very popular, He poll tested it. And Bush refused to enforce immigration law for the most part, Making up his own tax law wouldnt be explained so easily.

193 posted on 06/29/2012 9:02:09 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: sickoflibs

Careful, you might unwittingly fall into the trap of furthering the leftist agenda.

You see, what they want is for Americans to gradually come to accept the changes they force upon us as normal. To the frog in the pot they say “Don’t worry, the water is not getting any hotter. That’s how it’s supposed to feel.”


194 posted on 06/30/2012 5:43:39 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: dalebert; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; cuban leaf; ...

It’s like I’ve said before. High level leftist activists suffer from a very unfortunate sort of cognitive mismatch—strong opinions backed by weak intellectual judgment. Another way to illustrate this is to say that true wisdom cannot exist without a good moral foundation.

Their belief system is grounded in emotion, cultivated by the worst moral instincts like jealousy and resentment. Logical processing operates on the surface—an incomplete intellect because it is founded in a relativistic ontology. Flawed from the bottom up due to a separation from a formal understanding of good morals.

From what I can tell, Obama himself was taught using this method.

What to do? As the Lord teaches, bless those who persecute you and pray for those who spitefully use you.


195 posted on 06/30/2012 6:24:50 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: reasonisfaith

It’s like I’ve said before. High level leftist activists suffer from a very unfortunate sort of cognitive mismatch—strong opinions backed by weak intellectual judgment. Another way to illustrate this is to say that true wisdom cannot exist without a good moral foundation.

Their belief system is grounded in emotion, cultivated by the worst moral instincts like jealousy and resentment. Logical processing operates on the surface—an incomplete intellect because it is founded in a relativistic ontology. Flawed from the bottom up due to a separation from a formal understanding of good morals.

From what I can tell, Obama himself was taught using this method.

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well stated


196 posted on 06/30/2012 6:26:54 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: reasonisfaith

well it doesnt help that they are rolling new left wing voters accross the borders as fast and they can out run the law.. and these new illegal voters are not just left wing ..they come with a communist point of view. we are over run and out numbered.


197 posted on 06/30/2012 6:28:36 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: who knows what evil?

DEAD HORSE IN HIS BED


198 posted on 06/30/2012 6:29:35 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: dalebert

Most of the voters you mention believe the same things we believe. The only problem is many of them have been temporarily fooled by the left.

But look at what’s happening to the democrat agenda in Georgia. Black voters are starting to realize what a sham Obama is.


199 posted on 06/30/2012 6:45:07 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I thought that stamp tax was only imposed on machine guns.

Nope - it covers machine guns, short-barrel (16") rifles, short-barrel (18") shotguns, silencers, destructive devices (grenades et. al.), and the "any other weapon" category like cane guns, smooth-bore pistols, etc.

200 posted on 06/30/2012 9:02:31 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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