Posted on 06/28/2012 3:14:25 PM PDT by stefeb
I just got home from work, and learned of the Supreme Court's ruling. For a moment I was dumbfounded, but was able to gather some scattered thoughts...
The Supreme Court is no longer supreme. There a four liberals on the bench, and four conservatives, and then there's Roberts, who is, well that's anyone's guess. However, today Justice Roberts has upheld a clearly unconstitional law by calling it a tax. Incredible!
Now, the federal government, can force anyone to buy the government's brand of health insurance. Or, stated another way, the government can now penalize, a once free citizen if they opt out of the, rule by fiat healthcare system. Penalize, force, in this case clearly interchangeable words.
I thought this was America, you know, the coutnry where an individual is able create his or her own destiny. America, at least the one I knew as a child, would never force it's citizens to do anything. Period.
Yes, there are laws, but penalizing people who choose to opt out of the nightmare that is Obamacare, is something out of a, "How To Be A Dictator", handbook.
We are still a country of the brave, and I would gladly give my life for my country, but, I fear we are no longer free.
So, what can we do? I know it seems hopeless, and my thoughts may seem over simplistic, but one thing we must remember is that God is in control. He knows it all. He's aware of all the secret meetings, all the laundered money, all the dishonesty of an Attorney General who should be behind bars.
Obama and his crew of malcontents, may fool some of the people, but Obama will never, ever, pull the wool over God's eyes. We are all created by God. He has given us inaleiable rights, and He is the only one that can revoke those rights.
We have spineless RINO's in congress, who are more concerned about their future than America's. The democrats, do not care one bit about the constitution, their focus being on control.
The answer?...Yes, we must vote Obama out of office, and the democrats in the senate and house, but in addition to, and beyond that, we must fall to our knees and pray to the Lord of Lords, the One who created all that is, and the One whose very spirit was imbibed in our founding fathers.
He is our only hope. While we are praying, we must be politically active, and seek His guidance, so that freedom is restored to every American.
I'm not throwing up my hands, I'm falling on my knees. With God, there is always a way, and I believe He will answer the prayers of American's longing to return America to the glorious state He intended it to be.
either stomp on it in november (even mitt is saying he’s going to do a universal exemption) or bring it back before the ussc as a fair taxation case.
Yes he is.
God has turned his back on America, he has given us our reward for 30 years of allowing the murder of the unborn.
A nation deserves the leaders it gets, or so said Jefferon. We are a nation of shallow, corrupt people. What we now get to watch is the end of a once great nation.
The New World Order socialists have paved the way for Muslims to take over large areas of our country, stolen money from people who work.
All the while we who work do nothing to stop them but whine and play by the rules.
Roberts sold what he had left of his soul, no large bill like this has ever been repealed, besides the republican leadership HELPED get the bill passed and our own talking heads ignored the NBC issue which aided the new dictator in the WH.
God has turned his back on America, he has given us our reward for 30 years of allowing the murder of the unborn.
A nation deserves the leaders it gets, or so said Jefferon. We are a nation of shallow, corrupt people. What we now get to watch is the end of a once great nation.
The New World Order socialists have paved the way for Muslims to take over large areas of our country, stolen money from people who work.
All the while we who work do nothing to stop them but whine and play by the rules.
Roberts sold what he had left of his soul, no large bill like this has ever been repealed, besides the republican leadership HELPED get the bill passed and our own talking heads ignored the NBC issue which aided the new dictator in the WH.
Thoughts: The Revolutionary War was fought because of tax issues. We changed the government. This time we can do it by our vote. Time for all to knock on some doors, donate funds. get the vote out.
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Your post on #4 is right on. It could not be said better. Thanks.
My fear is that this is indeed the case.
I'll say one other thing: when no one in a position to do so challenged Obama's NBC status and eligibility to be President, the little Marxist tyrant knew he could get away with anything.
There are lots of people who claim to be Christians, and who am I to judge, who believe in this law.
But I am like you. God is in charge whether I like it or not. But that does not mean a lot of people don’t suffer from tyranny.
Unfortunately, this is not true anymore. I have spent many years trying to come to grips with this.
thx, I also posted a few days ago that the court would uphold Obamacare because the court is every bit as corrupt as Washington and anyone in Congress.
I sold all my fireams to individules.
I keep lots of ammo because I think they are works of art and they will be more valuable than gold.
There is one more thing we can do.
Publicly declare that we will create no new small businesses until Obamacare is repealed.
No new business.
No new jobs.
No new taxes.
Imagine signs on thousands of new businesses declaring they will hire no new employees and refuse to expand until Obamacare is repealed.
That is a message they will understand—and even if the Republicans win in November they may need a little “push” in the right direction.
It’s really all over for America now.
Of course, it’s been coming on for a long time, as congress and the president usurped greater and great powers not authorized in the constitution, but now the constitution has been thoroughly and irremediably shredded.
To begin with, the government can now force Americans to purchase anything it deems they should.
It can also force Americans into any behaviors it feels warranted.
Like that steak?
Sorry, it threatens your heart.
Like sugar?
Sorry, too much diabetes.
And so on.
Once the principle has been established, anything and everything will be in play.
Sorry, your firearms pose a health hazard.
An end run around the Second Amendment will be a snap.
As in Massachusetts, there will be no need for any outright prohibition; firearms will simlly be declared a health hazard, and banned without the passage of any law or even the need to consider the matter in congress.
This is tantamount to a authorizing a dictatorship, which must soon follow.
Second, of course, the budget - already bloated to the point of scant possibility of recovery - has now been placed beyond all capacity to manage, for this reason: this healthcare nonsense, as has been proven beyond all doubt in Massachusetts, will very soon bloat far beyond the power of anyone to pay for it.
If I’m sick, I can decide whether my personal budget warrants a trip to the hospital, and decide accordingly.
Now, of course, everyone will check into the emergency room for a hangnail.
Hey, why not - Uncle Sam’s picking up the tab!
The health establishment will be swamped, and it’ll take a major wait to get an operation for something truly important, such as heart problems.
This has already been proven the cause in Britain.
This bloating will, as night follows day, force the government to raise taxes far beyond the point of socialism or go broke.
Morever, it’s historically proven that when a government - any government - is faced with bills it cannot hope to pay, it adulterates the currency to the point it’s meaningless.
That means that the dollar you now hold, and have been saving for retirement, will be worthless in a few years.
That will make savings impossible, and, without savings, there will be nothing available for infrastructure repair, investment, or improvement down the road.
And with countless Americans bankrupted by high taxes, runaway inflation, and further government giveaways, even as the economy stagnates even further and infrastructure falls apart, the government can only become more and more bloated as it seeks to enact countless additional programs to alleviate problems it, itself, has created.
The socialism will become more and more intrusive, until the point is reached that the government becomes a communist monster and can - and will - tell everyone what to do, how to do it, and what not to do, or face economic sanctions and/or imprisonment.
Ironic that after spending so much national treasure and spilling the blood of so many national heroes, communism is enacted without a whisper.
Obama has finally achieved what he sought all along - the utter destruction of the American nation and the American way of life.
The only upside is that it makes us Old Fogeys happy to be nearing death.
For the younger set, on the other hand, freedom, liberty, and the American national way of life is now all over except the mopping up.
edit—thousands of businesses.
“We are still a country of the brave, and I would gladly give my life for my country, but, I fear we are no longer free....we must fall to our knees and pray to the Lord of Lords, the One who created all that is, and the One whose very spirit was imbibed in our founding fathers.”
I submit to you the thought that we are a land of the FREE, and home of the BRAVE...if we really are ‘the brave’, and if we really are in the mold of the founders, who were imbibed by the very Spirit of God 236 years ago.
God gave them, the founders, the wisdom needed to create a Republic...REPUBLIC...yes, I am shouting that...and they used the means God gave them to see it through. Is he giving us that same wisdom? YES! if we are willing to accept and act on it. The Constitution that our Founders gave us still stands, and Chief? Justice John Roberts cannot change that Constitution. He is at this point a no-body, one to be replaced or made irrevelant in the days, weeks, months to come. We do not need a ‘smart ass, wishy washy Justice on the Supreme Court. It is time to get his attention with a bigger 2x4.
It is our responsibility to elect a Republican President, a Republican Senate, and a Republican House filled with as many conservatives as we can. It is our responsibility to follow through with those we elect to get from them what we need/want as conservatives. It is not about the Tea Party vs Them. It is about We The People vs Them.
At some point, it may be necessary for us to invoke the measures that the Founders gave us. These are all guaranteed to us in the Bill of Rights...and each of these is of utmost importance. It is why we are still free, why we still have the freedom to choose freedom.
It begins in November, and it is then our responsibility to follow through...just as our Founders did. Our Founders did follow through...and no matter what the result in November, it is our responsibility to ‘follow through’. Ask any Pro-golfer...it is all about follow through.
Please be advised, I am sick and tired of answering questions about my dog, who mauled six people wearing Obama tee shirts, four wearing Pelosi tee shirts, two assorted Democrats, nine teenagers with their pants hanging past their cracks, three flag burners, and a group of illegals.
FOR THE LAST TIME... THE DOG IS NOT FOR SALE !!!
I'M TRYING TO TALK HIM INTO QUITTING SMOKING,
BUT HE SAYS IT HELPS GET THE BAD TASTE OUT OF HIS MOUTH!!!
On a day like today, if I don't find a way to laugh, I'll never find a way to stop banging my head against the cinder block wall...............
Looking for legal insight after watching years of courtroom drama.
On TV anyways, the defense has to establish a defensive approach (insanity, self-defense etc) before the trial, stick with it, and the system decided on that argument.
From what I can tell, Obama came in arguing constitutionality under the commerce clause, not that it was a tax (correct me if wrong there).
If so, then can the court say, hey your defense was not working so we’ll decide on what you should have done?
It was pretty much over for freedom after the passage of the income tax amendment in 1913, in which Uncle Sam was now privy and partner to every dollar you earn.
Right after that they no longer needed the tax revenue from alcohol sales (made up about 45% of total federal receipts at the time), they passed an amendment outlawing alcohol in 1920, coincidentally the same year they expanded the right to vote to women.
This today is just nationalization of the health care industry at gunpoint, small potatoes compared to the extortion that goes on via the IRS and the DC Apparatus.
And yet people on this forum continue to believe that DC will provide a solution, if only the right people are in office.
Never happen, because Washington is the problem, never the solution (both parties).
They just fight over who gets to control the money extorted from the suckers outside the Beltway.
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