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To: Jedidah
Roberts has expanded the taxation power, which I don’t really think is a massive expansion from what it was,

Ignorant statement. What kind of tax is it? You're being taxed for not buying something, so it can't be a sales tax. It is independent of income, so it is not an income tax. It is not levied on a commodity being purchased, so it is not an excise tax. You can avoid it by buying an insurance policy, so it is not a head tax.

What kind of "tax" is this? A previously unknown form? The answer of course is that it is not a tax at all. It is a financial penalty for unapproved but legal behavior. Calling it a tax does not make it one. Roberts has sold out, for what mess of pottage god only knows

17 posted on 06/28/2012 10:22:26 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard
What kind of tax is it?

I was thinking about this very thing. To me, it most resembles a civil fine.

41 posted on 06/28/2012 10:30:19 AM PDT by IamConservative (Well done is better than well said. - Ben Franklin)
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To: hinckley buzzard
What kind of tax is it? You're being taxed for not buying something,

Actually our tax system already functions this way. If I do not buy a house on credit or have children or pay college tuition, my taxes are higher.

53 posted on 06/28/2012 10:32:55 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: hinckley buzzard
What kind of "tax" is this? A previously unknown form? The answer of course is that it is not a tax at all. It is a financial penalty for unapproved but legal behavior. Calling it a tax does not make it one.

That is one of the most important statements that I've read all morning.

The points you raise need to be brought up over and over, until everyone understands that just because Roberts called it a tax, does NOT make it so. It is a fine, pure and simple, just as you stated.

So, in addition to failing to uphold the Constitution in this matter, and punting it back to Congress, Roberts has also given the bastards linguistic cover to justify forcing Americans to bend to this destruction of our liberties.

It is NOT a "tax", folks!

81 posted on 06/28/2012 10:59:19 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: hinckley buzzard; All

“Calling it a tax does not make it one.”

Indeed, it was an incredibly specious piece of logic on Robert’s part. He states using the “commerce cause” would be unconstitutional, but then - lets that pass and calls it a “tax” instead. What kind of convoluted thinking goes that way?

I think he has stopped being Chief Justice of the SCOTUS and instead is acting as the Solicitor General for the Obama Administration.

However, I won’t vote for Romney because he is as bad as Obama, and would appoint justices worse than Roberts.


122 posted on 06/28/2012 1:59:07 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: hinckley buzzard

It is a head tax, which is waived on those who have health insurance.


130 posted on 06/28/2012 3:33:46 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: hinckley buzzard

You are precisely correct! Very nice summation.

I don’t know- and almost don’t WANT to know...WTH Roberts was really trying to accomplish here but the implications are truly awful to ponder.


136 posted on 06/28/2012 6:04:13 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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