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The question is - why do most Jews dislike evangelicals who love them, but are instead pre-occupied with reaching out to blacks who hate them? Barack Obama's hostile policies towards Israel have not turned most American Jews against him. Why?
1 posted on 06/28/2012 10:07:38 AM PDT by pinochet
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To: pinochet

I’m not remotely pre-occupied with blacks.

Evangelical Chrisitans are fine people, I thank them for their support of Israel.

I do consider their constant attempts* to covert my family and me annoying, but I take it as sincere and so am as kind as one can be about something like that.

* As in, I was in a supermarket yesterday and was cornered and handed bible versus by some old lady. Worst was on a plane crossing the Atlantic ocean.


2 posted on 06/28/2012 10:16:35 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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Jews in America are of the far left, great in power and influence, but small in raw numbers, blacks are their voting and street muscle, blacks vote for their political agendas but resent them and their hold over them, nonetheless.

Evangelicals are of the right and are the most powerful force of conservatism in America and Western Civilization.

Evangelicals are all-important for Israel but the American Jewish left naturally hates them anyway because it is a right/left war in America, it is about our politics, our nation, not Israel to American Jews.


3 posted on 06/28/2012 10:29:35 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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I think the sympathy factor regarding slavery is a factor. We see ourselves as emancipated slaves. A large part of the founding of our religion is based on that. That would be the main reason for supporting blacks.

As for a distaste for evangelicals... well, the evangelicals tend to try to convert our kids. That’s a big no-no. It’s spoken of as a great tragedy when a young Jewish person leaves the tribe. The whole Messianic Jew movement tends to make most C’s and O’s hiss. (Along with the Reform movement... but that’s a different subject.)

Evangelicals support Israel and Jews NOW, but (not too long ago) that wasn’t always the story. Christians have labeled us “Christ killers” for a long time. Many still do. It’s sometimes hard to differentiate between the Christians who truly want to support us and Israel, the ones who say that they support us in order to worm their way in and convert us, and the ones who want our nation wiped off the map.

We have a long memory.


4 posted on 06/28/2012 10:36:05 AM PDT by Marie (Our only hope is in electing a very conservative congress.)
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The question is - why do most Jews dislike evangelicals who love them, but are instead pre-occupied with reaching out to blacks who hate them?

It's because many Jews are anti-White European, and feel safer in a Balkanized society. They are doing the same thing now with groups like La Raza. Unfortunately, they are finding that Blacks make poor Shabbos Goys.

35 posted on 06/28/2012 7:56:52 PM PDT by Hacksaw (If I had a son, he'd look like George Zimmerman.)
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A few observations:

1)One need not be a Dispensationalist to be well-disposed to Israel. All one needs is a dose of simple Biblical sentimentalism.

2)Apparently "Black" is a religion and "Evangelical" is a color, seeing as how the author separates the two.

3)Why wouldn't Evangelicals, or any other human being, place their ultimate beliefs first, ahead of politics and utilitarianism? One would think that Jews, whose religion regulates their lives down to the minutest detail, would understand this. How in sam hill does anyone check his Ultimate Beliefs at the entrance to the voting booth?

56 posted on 06/29/2012 7:43:19 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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I guess so — in the very broad sense that Jews supported civil rights and most Blacks didn’t always appreciate it and evangelicals support Israel and don’t get credit for that from most Jews — but maybe when you get down to details there are differences.


119 posted on 06/29/2012 2:06:22 PM PDT by x
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David Dinkins an anti-Semite? I don’t think so. What ails him is the fact that he was a small-minded party machine politician who got elevated beyond his level of incompetence, and he drowned in it, and was replaced by a truly great mayor who transformed the city. I was there. I saw it all happening. Dinkins might be embittered towards Jews who, in the aftermath of the Crown Heights Pogrom, turned their backs on him despite years of pandering. But I turned my back on him long before that.


138 posted on 06/30/2012 3:15:41 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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Interesting post. Without Evangelicals there would be no State of Israel. Many American Jews are complacent thanks to the blessings of America. Many do not have the welfare of Israel as much of a priority. And even the ones that do still do not feel the existential threats hovering over it. Interestingly, US citizens in Israel voted strongly for McCain over Obama.

One point I never see addressed is that Jews seem to be condemned if they do and condemned if they don’t. This may play into the Jewish liberal vote. I am referring to the charge of dual loyalty. Some liberal Jews like the early Jewish Reform movement may seek to avoid that charge.

One correction, neither David Dinkins nor Andrew Young belong on this list with the likes of Al Sharpton.


164 posted on 07/04/2012 10:58:37 AM PDT by dervish (ABO)
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Do Blacks Treat Jews in the Same Manner in Which Jews Treat Evangelicals?

No...they kill them.

165 posted on 07/04/2012 11:09:04 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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