[agere_contra]

Four weeks ago a colleague of mine had a serious bronchial infection. He was given an X-ray.

His X-ray results came through yesterday.

That’s the NHS for you.

[MulberryDraw]

Our DIL is expecting our first grandchild. She’s been on the internet “talking” with other women that are pregnant. Some in the UK tell her that they will normally be discharged in only 6 hours after the delivery.

[C210N]

If government health care isn't working well here, why have faith it will work better in the much larger U.S.?

Because we have bigger and better masterminds?

Just because it's NEVER worked in human history, if the masterminds get it right, then we will have Nirvana/Utopia on earth! There is always a first time... right?

[ComputerGuy]

I read somewhere on the web (so it must be true) that the UK health system is the second-largest civilian employer in the world.
That must be one hell of a bureaucracy.

[Eye of Unk]

The only guide I need is how to give the bird to this Marxist ideology, how to refuse Obamacare, and how to make others resist.

Resistance IS patriotic!

[moovova]

NHS/Obamacare IS a death panel.

[spokeshave]

Ha ...if you think that the NHS is bad ...try getting some dental care in UK.

No 1 sales item in the UK equivalent to 7-11 convenience stores is a "do-it-yourself" dental kit.

Contains small mirror, pliers, glue, antibiotics, pain reliever and instructions.

The Spanish have a word for the English

The tall blue eyed sun burnt people with bad teeth.

[mo]

All need be aware of the Orwellian British agency...eerily foreshadowed in a novel, That Hideous Strength, written by CS Lewsi in 1944....N.I.C.E.

Set up by the Labour government in 1999, the National Institute of Health and Clinical Excellence (N.I.C.E.) produces “guidance” for the NHS on what drugs and treatments should be provided by Britain’s government-funded health system. From the extraction of wisdom teeth, to the funding of Alzheimer’s drugs, to the provision or withdrawal of nutrition and hydration to disabled patients, N.I.C.E. lays down what will and will not be paid for by Britain’s National Health Service.

The N.I.C.E. describes its template of criteria as being based on “efficacy and cost effectiveness,” in which a key formula is the “quality adjusted life year” (QALY). The QALY “takes into consideration the quality of life of the patient during any additional time for which their life will be prolonged”. The clinical and cost effectiveness of the treatment is then used as the basis for a recommendation as to whether or not the treatment should be provided.

The case of Leslie Burke, a retired postman with a degenerative motor neurone disease, is illustrative. Burke sued the government for the right not to be denied nutrition and hydration when his illness rendered him unable to swallow or communicate. He won his first case in 2005 with a judge ruling that denying nutrition and hydration “would be a breach of claimant’s rights under . . . the European Convention on Human Rights.” But the General Medical Council and the Department of Health appealed and won.

The head of scientific development and bioethics at the Department of Health, Elizabeth Woodeson, argued in the case that the NHS, according to the guidelines laid down by the N.I.C.E., must retain the right to dehydrate such patients to death or “there would be considerable risk of inefficient use of NHS resources.”

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive/ldn/2008/feb/08020701

N.I.C.E runs what are effectively, the death panels, in Britain. Coming here iminently ...courtesy of the Democrat Party and Obama...