[wardaddy]

Post 2005 freepers do not know that we sure fought it out over this in the first half of 2000s

and the predominate stance here was that some path to citizenship was the route to go

and that latinos would vote GOP

because they are Catholic

those of us who said otherwise had to slog it out and present stats nobody cared about as we were branded racist

when we turned back Bush's amnesty attempt thru phone campaigns ...that was the turning point here

now...nationally ...and with SCOTUS asserting Fed sovereignty over states in this matter for the most part

i fear it's a fait accomnpli

if you have a Federal Government refusing to enforce immigration laws then States are limited in their ability to do something about it

even as Free Republic and white conservatives in general have become more informed and realistic about how most hispanics ..like Rubio...often vote minority self identity first

still hard to believe many here including quite a few early freepers thought amnesty was a good idea

problem is...not sure we can thwart it forever

and feds refusal to enforce laws is de facto amnesty anyhow

what has helped our side most is oddly...a bad economy and Mexico's birth rate and much less available pool of illegals there and elsewhere south

[stephenjohnbanker]

” when we turned back Bush’s amnesty attempt thru phone campaigns ...that was the turning point here

now...nationally ...and with SCOTUS asserting Fed sovereignty over states in this matter for the most part

i fear it’s a fait accomnpli

if you have a Federal Government refusing to enforce immigration laws then States are limited in their ability to do something about it

even as Free Republic and white conservatives in general have become more informed and realistic about how most hispanics ..like Rubio...often vote minority self identity first

still hard to believe many here including quite a few early freepers thought amnesty was a good idea

problem is...not sure we can thwart it forever”

I agree. Not looking good in the long run.

[AuntB]

What you said...bump it!

[ansel12]

and the predominate stance here was that some path to citizenship was the route to go and that latinos would vote GOP because they are Catholic

I hope that everyone learned that Hispanics vote Democrat because the ARE Catholic, not in spite of being Catholic.

Democrats including Obama have always depended on the Catholic vote to help counter the always republican Protestant vote.

[Travis McGee]

The “best” we can hope for at this point is federal collapse, and regional breakup. And that is not a very good “best.”

Worst? Beyond belief. I don’t want to go there.