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To: dervish

“bring up the King David Hotel neglecting to mention it was military headquarters.”

First, I am not going to excuse the bombing of the KDH. It was an act of war, no doubt about it.

Second, and however, the Brits always neglect to mention the Irgun called the Brits REPEATEDLY telling them there was a bomb -— the goal was to destroy the seret police records, not terror or to take human life.

For reasons unknown, the Brits simply refused to evacuate the building.


36 posted on 06/26/2012 7:36:09 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

‘Second, and however, the Brits always neglect to mention the Irgun called the Brits REPEATEDLY telling them there was a bomb -— the goal was to destroy the seret police records, not terror or to take human life.’

Pity they werent so loving of human life on other occasions...

As to the warning issue:

‘Warnings

Since the bombing, much controversy has ensued over the issues of when warnings were sent and how the British authorities responded. Irgun representatives have always stated that the warning was given well in advance of the explosion, so that adequate time was available to evacuate the hotel. Menachem Begin, for example, writes that the telephone message was delivered 25–27 minutes before the explosion.[14] It is often stated that the British authorities have always denied that a warning was sent. However, what the British Government said, five months after the bombing, once the subsequent inquest and all the inquiries had been completed, was not that no warning had been sent, but that no such warning had been received by anyone at the Secretariat “in an official position with any power to take action.”[15]

American author Thurston Clarke’s analysis of the bombing gave timings for calls and for the explosion which he says took place at 12:37. He said that as part of the Irgun plan, a sixteen year old recruit, Adina Hay (alias Tehia), was to make three warning calls before the attack. At 12:22 the first call was made, in both Hebrew and English, to a telephone operator on the hotel’s switchboard (the Secretariat and the military each had their own, separate, telephone exchanges). It was ignored.[3] At 12:27, the second warning call was made to the French Consulate adjacent to the hotel to the north-east. This second call was taken seriously and staff went through the building opening windows and closing curtains to lessen the impact of the blast. At 12:31 a third and final warning call to the Palestine Post newspaper was made. The telephone operator called the Palestine Police CID to report the message. She then called the hotel switchboard. The hotel operator reported the threat to one of the hotel managers. This warning resulted in the discovery of the milk churns in the basement, but by then it was too late.[3]

Some Israeli observers have stated that the British had received enough warning but they assumed that the Hotel was so heavily guarded that any attack would be futile. Begin claimed in his memoirs that the British had deliberately kept civilians in so that they could vilify the Jewish militant groups,[16] although no evidence has ever been produced to support this.’

‘Army and police reports

Various government papers relating to the bombing were released under the thirty year rule in 1978, including the results of the military and police investigations.[note 2] The reports contain statements and conclusions which are contradicted by other evidence, including that submitted to the inquest held after the bombing. Affidavits which reflected badly on the security of the hotel were removed from the army report before it was submitted to the High Commissioner and then the Cabinet in London.[3] The police report makes the likely claim that the warning sent to the French Consulate was received five minutes after the main explosion. This is contradicted by multiple eyewitnesses who reported seeing staff opening the Consulate windows five minutes after that happened. The report also claims that the warning received by the Palestine Post was not received until after the explosion. That claim is confirmed by the testimony of two members of the Palestine Post staff, one of who said that she was put under pressure by the Palestine Police to withdraw what she had said.[3]’

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

Also, so what if they warned?. That dosent change the fact they were terrorists who planted a bomb. Any more than the fact that the IRA or ETA used to also (sometimes) give warnings makes what the IRA or ETA did at all morally justifiable. Again, dont try this BS that the two gangs were loving and conscious of human life and tried not to kill people where possible.

Because it is utter, utter bull.


38 posted on 06/26/2012 9:10:13 AM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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