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Jogger targeted by teens turns out to be Kung Fu expert
FOXNEWS via NEWSCORE ^ | 06/22/12 | NewsCore

Posted on 06/23/2012 8:53:53 AM PDT by Doogle

VANCOUVER, Wash. – Two teenagers got more than they bargained for when a Washington state woman they attempted to assault turned out to be an expert in martial arts.

KATU reports that Priscilla Dang was jogging in her Vancouver neighborhood last Friday when she was approached by two teenagers on their bikes.

One pulled in front of her as the other groped her from behind.

Fortunately for Dang she had studied Kung Fu for 18 years at a martial arts school owned by her family. She used the training to teach her attacker some manners.

"I grabbed him and said, 'You need to apologize, and he did,'" said Dang.

Then things escalated when the second teen started swearing at her.

Dang said that something snapped inside her and that is when her Kung Fu background really kicked in as she punched him twice in the face.

"He started coming in for a few, and I was lucky enough to dodge his shots. I came up for another one and I got him good, and I think that upset him," she told the news station.

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To: ansel12

“If she expects to be standing over vanquished opponents as they lay defeated on the ground then she will be in trouble...”

You must watch a lot of movies. I’m not sure how you know what my kid is/isn’t learning, but thanks for your lecture on the obvious.


101 posted on 06/23/2012 3:07:30 PM PDT by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: Doogle
Bad decision by the victim. They will be back, with family and pack members to extract revenge.

If she didn't kill them outright, at least she should have broken both of their arms, shoulders, and legs. Then used an accidental kick to split their scrotum open.

This second part is important since no male human or baboon can retain consciousness as a result of SS syndrome.

In addition, the many months of rehab would still leave them with an an "alto" if not "soprano" persona that would make their life in juvie or or jail so much fun.

102 posted on 06/23/2012 3:38:29 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Owl558

No but I know a lot about fighting and violence, everyone of your posts have been hostile and defensive against hearing another opinion, I’m merely offering you some advice as to how you should try to influence your daughter’s thinking in regards to her capabilities and what is out there in the world.


103 posted on 06/23/2012 3:40:04 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
Would you believe consistently under five minutes?

Actually I would; I used to live about ten to fifteen blocks away from a police station; and a block away from a fire-station. (I'd place the avg response time in the ten to fifteen minute range.)

As with a lot of things, the 'terrain' is an important factor. Even so, many places don't have that sort of relationship. I read somewhere that the national average was above 10min, but I don't remember the number.

104 posted on 06/23/2012 3:44:41 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Drango

What do you do when you see one man pull a knife on another during a fight? Do you run away, or do you step in to take the knife away and save a life?

What if the typical American can’t outrun the typical 18 to 28 year old type of guy who pulls knives?

We instruct our daughters to run, but not all of us should run, some need to actually learn how to deal with the threat.


105 posted on 06/23/2012 3:57:38 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12
What do you do when you see one man pull a knife on another during a fight?

You use your head. And we spent hours (years actually) drilling on what to do if we had to fight. The early years were skills/conditioning/technique drills. Later we learned wisdom/judgment. In the early years we were grasshoppers .

106 posted on 06/23/2012 4:09:03 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango

If Brown belts were taught to run from people, how many years did it take before someone in that class was told/taught to stand and fight, or to help others who were being attacked with a knife?


107 posted on 06/23/2012 4:21:13 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12
“it seemed to me that they were taught to do Karate dancing, and to fight at arm and leg distance. Closing on them and taking them out instantly worked every time”

Exactly right. Street confrontations don't have referees and are not dojo dance contests ie: expect the unexpected. Very few schools or instructors teach combat from the clinch distance consequently their students are confounded by unorthodox attacks. Mindset is everything and your best weapon is between your ears. High stress situations inhibit fine motor movements. Simple direct gross motor movements work best and that's probably why your friend was so much more effective than the dojo dancers. Google Kelly McCann or Lee Morrison for more info on the psychological aspect of fighting/combat. I don't think martial arts are bad. They teach discipline,physical fitness and give confidence to those need it but a lot of students get artificial views in a structured environment and sometimes rude awakenings. Watch the early UFC matches for examples.

108 posted on 06/23/2012 4:28:14 PM PDT by Polynikes (Hakkaa Palle)
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To: ansel12

You win. You understood the lesson perfectly.


109 posted on 06/23/2012 4:31:19 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Polynikes

I tell guys to search for a class where they will learn to fight, disable, kill, to avoid classes where some goofy philosophy is taught along with meaningless rituals and stylistic, choreographed fighting/dancing simulations.

I don’t know what it is like today, but from running into the martial arts guys, I came to think of them as learning fighting in the equivalent of a paint ball game to actual military training.

The revulsion I felt for that constant whine that each one would emit after losing in seconds, “but you aren’t doing it right..” I had to keep telling them that I was there to fight, that I had already told them that I knew nothing about martial arts, and that I had no idea how to play their dance partner in a two man dance routine, and I never wanted to know.

I guess that I could say that that friend and I did spend a whole lot of time on knives and (hooked) canes which was a form of martial arts practice I suppose, but it was always about getting it done directly and quickly, I used to occasionally walk the alleys late at night with that cane, playing old and vulnerable, but nothing ever came of it.


110 posted on 06/23/2012 4:59:25 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: CommerceComet

Dempsey used to tour and fight exhibitions taking on all comers. A number of misguided souls got in the ring with Dempsey thinking he would take it easy on them. They were dead wrong. Or almost ended up dead as Dempsy remorselessly stalked them and punched them out.


111 posted on 06/23/2012 6:15:22 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: Texas Fossil

Two ancient groups most of the world has learned not to screw with: Gurkhas and Sikhs. I believe the last one who made that mistake was Indira Gandhi with the Sikhs.


112 posted on 06/23/2012 8:44:59 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Moonman62
I think the problems with some blacks and some Hispanics is cultural

I agree. I'll just say there's a reason why my guard is up much more in Detroit than around the handful of blacks in my area. Most of the trouble here is minor drunk or drug stuff that happens anywhere.

113 posted on 06/23/2012 8:51:14 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency.)
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To: ansel12
to avoid classes where some goofy philosophy is taught along with meaningless rituals and stylistic, choreographed fighting/dancing simulations.

I know at least in Taekwondo that choreography has a purpose, to make various striking and blocking movements second nature. Later you learn to combine those movements into effective attack and defense sequences on the fly when confronted with an opponent. The place I was at did also practice with fake knives and teach moves that are illegal in competition, so it had a self-defense focus.

114 posted on 06/23/2012 8:57:27 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: US Navy Vet

My strategy is kill the one who first grabs you, so you don’t have to worry about what that one is up to while you try to kill the second one. And it doesn’t take a nice 1911 to kill someone stupid enough to grab, it just takes will power and self preservation instincts.


115 posted on 06/23/2012 9:10:03 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Polynikes
Watch the early UFC matches for example

I'll never forget the skinny 170lb Royce Gracie choking out 260lb wrestler Dan Severn.

Martial Arts was never the same since Gracie and the UFC. MMA was created, and wrestling and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu became kings.

116 posted on 06/23/2012 9:11:58 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Holding my nose one more time to get rid of Eric Holder)
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To: antiRepublicrat

There is that and 30 and 35 years ago Taekwondo was popular with many Special Ops guys (it may still be, i don’t keep up) because many of them felt it was a more direct line to straight combat fighting with less of the fru-fru and waste.

My friend who was a truly effective martial arts fighter did a lot of practice every single day, but all of his motions were blows, and all of his workouts of the blows were in the pool, for water resistance.

He not only was the only truly effective martial arts fighter guy I ever knew, he was the only one that I could not disrupt or make ineffective his use of the nunchucks, and he was the only one that could actually make that leg round house so quick that he could make it work against a skilled fighter.


117 posted on 06/23/2012 9:43:05 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

The Brits and the German Paratroopers did OK against the Gurkhas.

I don’t know that the Sikhs (or Gurkhas) have earned any global reputation among the great warriors superior than the Western elites of the present and of history.


118 posted on 06/23/2012 9:48:48 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: omega4179
She studied for 18 years and could only manage a stalemate until police arrived.

Washington State has CCW and Stand Your Ground. She would have done her neighbors a favor if she had blown away the guy with the knife.

119 posted on 06/24/2012 2:58:07 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: ansel12
I don’t know that the Sikhs (or Gurkhas) have earned any global reputation among the great warriors superior than the Western elites of the present and of history.

Gurkhas earned a reputation fighting for the British. The Sikhs historically have a habit of fighting to the death against vastly superior forces, taking as many of the enemy as possible along with them. These weren't necessarily any type of units.

120 posted on 06/24/2012 5:18:26 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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