Things worthy of dicussions are things that have a chance of happening or actually affecting something. I don’t see the point of living in an idealized fantasyland.
The idea that Obama would be removed from office before November, or removed from the ballot, is a delusional fantasy. That’s completely removed from the issue of whether he SHOULD be, it’s simply a reality of the current political structure and climate of the country (the “country” being a different entity than a group of conservative message boards and blogs).
It’s 1,000 times more a delusional fantasy that if Obama loses (which he probably will) that the issue would still be actually pursued afterwards, that judges that had been appointed by Obama would be removed, etc.
And I remain absolutely convinced that the average Birther, deep down (and they’d never admit it) would be disappointed if Obama simply lost the election, and would prefer that he win, so they can maintain the fantasy of his later removal from office due to legal action.
And as I’ve of course observed before, the Birther issue is completely worthless on the POLITICAL side (in terms of persuading people not to vote for Obama) because they only people that take it seriously are people that already didn’t vote for him in 2008 and certainly aren’t going to in 2012.
ANYONE who voted for Obama in 2008 considers birthers a bunch of kooks and no new evidence of any sort will change that. If they vote for Romney in 2012, it will because of the economy, etc., not because they doubt his legal status to be President.
You do realize that the HDOH has recently indirectly confirmed that the record they have for Obama is not legally valid - which means that they knew both BC’s Obama posted were forgeries as well as the newspaper birth announcements, and that they knew he used a different BC his entire life.... and yet they deceived the whole country and world. Right?
And you think that doesn’t matter? If the whole system can lie to us about everything and keep the truth from making any difference, then exactly what DOES matter? What can’t they do to us, if the above is just tripe, as you say?
The issue at this point is whether there is enough solid fabric left in America to make it even possible to mend and patch this nation into a workable piece again. If none of the above matters, then we don’t have enough integrity for ANYTHING to make a difference. Maybe you’re right; maybe that’s where America is at. If so, stick a fork in her, ‘cause she’s done.
I’m holding on, just in case there are still enough people who want to live in America, and not the third-world cartel-controlled, lawless hellhole that America is fast becoming. Any system that allowed Obama to get in and do this to us is perfectly capable of turning Mitt Romney into the same thing. If you don’t see that, then you are deceiving yourself about how big an enemy America truly faces.