#8 Birdshot
#4 Birdshot
#4 Buckshot
Posted on 06/20/2012 10:38:56 AM PDT by marktwain
A Tacoma homeowner shot a man who had broken into his house in the face on Tuesday, police said. The incident occurred near South 14th Street and Madison Street.
The homeowner was on the phone with 911 as the suspect was breaking into the home about 6 p.m. When he entered, the homeowner shot the suspected burglar in the face with a gun loaded with bird shot.
The injured man was transported to St. Joseph Hospital in Tacoma. His injuries are life-threatening.
That would have to make somebody reconsider crime as a living or way of life.
Very glad the homeowner was armed and could successfully defend himself from the threat that broke through his front door.
That’ll give him a pockmarked face........
Perp’s new nickname is Freckles!
000 buckshot is deadlier
Induced blindness tends to do that. Crime suppression anyone?
The thief got away with a pound of ground beef, on the end of his neck.
Wow! It is pretty brazen to break into an occupied home in broad daylight.he had to have been coming to hurt or kill the homeowner. I’m glad the homeowner is OK.
At close range bird shot can be deadly. At 9-10 feet in most guns it has only spread to about 1 1/2 to 2 inches and makes quite a mess...penetration is low in #7 or #8 but obviously is much greater as the mass of the individual pellet increases...ie #4 birdshot.
http://www.firearmsid.com/A_distshotpatt.htm
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2010/02/robert-farago/shotgun-penetration-with-various-rounds/
Sounds like a painful way to go. I have trouble working up a tear though - he should have found a job that doesn't involve the risks inherent in crime.
“Bird shot is deadly at short range!”
One of younger relatives lives on a close quarters cul de sac with neighbors home close on 3 sides.
He was advised by a former LEO, who is now an attorney not to buy 00’s for home protection. Besides the possibility or seriously wounding or worse a family member or an overnight guest, his close neighbors could be in danger.
He was told to buy bird shot like 8’s. Which he did.
Since then he and I did some checking around with ER docs/rns. They said a load of bird shot at close range would stop anyone. If it didn’t kill them then, they might wish that it had killed them.
So I bought some low base 8’s and shared the box with a couple of relatives living tight quarters.
IMHO Need something slightly larger than 8 but smaller than 00.
#8 = one wall http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot14_3.htm
#00 = four walls http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot14_4.htm
I seen some tests with #4 bird that looked like a good balance between stoppage and penetration worries. I saw one recommend that first loaded #4 bird as first two shells followed by #4 buck followed by slug. If angle of fire in your home indicates probability of penetration into bedrooms, I would go with small. Remember to practice your angles in your home, learning where good retreat and ambush spots are and the most likely first shots from both directions. Remember they can return fire and they aren’t worried about over penetration. So don’t set up your defense position with the bedrooms with sleeping kids in them behind you. Pick a different spot so any return fire has a less dangerous backdrop.
At close range (across a room), not necessarily. The birdshot will not have had a chance to spread out, and will hit as one mass. And the doctors will NOT have much luck digging out all those little pellets.
I’ve been conducting loading tests to produce a shell for both twenty and twelve gauge guns that uses #2 buckshot n a 2 1/8 inch —before shooting— shell. I tried #4 shot but found it would not provide the recoil needed for the length of shell with either a plastic shaped shot wad or the usual wad discs. #2 ont he other hand can be supplimented with # 7 shot for even more effect. I’ve cycled them through pumps and semis and found them to be very reliable and devastatingly effective. It also allows these shotguns with five round mags to hold a sixth round.
#8 Birdshot
#4 Birdshot
#4 Buckshot
With only 3-4 inches of penetration in gelatin, I think #8 is not enough. A winter intruder with a heavy coat etc, would be knock down with minor penetration. It would feel like he got hit in the chest with a 95mph baseball and may temporarily incapacitate depending on the size of the guy or gal.
I would recommend at least #4 birdshot.
That’ll give him a pockmarked face........
Bad guy gets a "Shotgun facelift".
I agree. Heavy birdshot as the first round in the magazine, followed by buckshot if the first round doesn’t solve the problem.
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