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To: CatherineofAragon

“Sorry, but that’s not the way it works. You can’t deny basic Biblical doctrine, even down to the nature of God, and call yourself Christian.”

Being Christian does not require subscribing to the orthodox view. Look up the word Christian in the dictionary and you won’t see a requirement to buy into the trinity or the creeds.

What we reject is orthodox Christianity’s interpretation of the Bible from which they derive doctrines about the nature of God etc. that we hold as being incorrect. Nor are our doctrines ‘made up’ but revealed by God.


194 posted on 06/14/2012 7:44:34 PM PDT by Grig
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To: Grig

Is that the meme now? If you don’t “buy into Christian creeds” you’re still a Christian, just a “non-orthodox” one? LOL. This gets wilder and wilder. I guess I can go make up a religion that says Dog the Bounty Hunter is my prophet, and he’s going to send me in handcuffs to another planet to create a race of people with mullets and camo costumes.....and I’m still a Christian, just a “non-orthodox” kind.

To deny God’s word is to be non-Christian. That denial includes claims that God was a man who became a god, and there are plural gods and goddesses; human beings may become gods; Jesus Christ is a created being; Christ’s sacrifice was not sufficient to remove our sins; and God had intercourse with Mary to conceive Jesus. (God forgive me for even speaking such blasphemy). None of this was “revealed by God”. You can easily google a list of sixty prophecies made by Joseph Smith which never came true, and Scripture tells us that a single false prophecy is proof of a false prophet. Don’t bother saying they have yet to come true——many of them had dates of fulfillment, and those dates came and went.

Again, believe whatever you please. But don’t try to pass it off as Christianity; it will never wash.


220 posted on 06/15/2012 9:10:53 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Grig; CatherineofAragon

God’s hand did not write the dictionary...

I would tend to stick with his definitions of what a Christian is, not some professor in an office many years ago...


234 posted on 06/15/2012 10:55:45 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Grig
Look up the word Christian in the dictionary and you won’t see a requirement to buy into the trinity or the creeds.

Look up the word MORMON and you'll find a controlling bunch of hypocrits trying to lay claim to it.


Media Letter   
26 June 2008 — Salt Lake City  (http://newsroom.lds.org/additional-resource/media-letter)

*The following is a letter from Elder Lance B. Wickman, General Counsel of the Church to publishers of major newspapers, TV stations and magazines. It was sent out on Tuesday, June 24, 2008.




Recent events have focused the media spotlight on a polygamous sect near San Angelo, Texas, calling itself the “Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.” As you probably know, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has absolutely no affiliation with this polygamous sect. Decades ago, the founders of that sect rejected the doctrines of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, were excommunicated, and then started their own religion. To the best of our knowledge, no one at the Texas compound has ever been a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Unfortunately, however, some of the media coverage of the recent events in Texas has caused members of the public to confuse the doctrines and members of that group and our church. We have received numerous inquiries from confused members of the public who, by listening to less than careful media reports, have come to a grave misunderstanding about our respective doctrines and faith. Based on these media reports many have erroneously concluded that there is some affiliation between the two – or even worse, that they are one and the same.

Over the years, in a careful effort to distinguish itself, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has gone to significant lengths to protect its rights in the name of the church and related matters. Specifically, we have obtained registrations for the name “The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,” “Mormon,” “Book of Mormon” and related trade and service marks from the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office and corresponding agencies in a significant number of foreign countries.

We are confident that you are committed to avoiding misleading statements that cause unwarranted confusion and that may disparage or infringe the intellectual property rights discussed above. Accordingly, we respectfully request the following:

  1. As reflected in the AP Style Guide, we ask that you and your organization refrain from referring to members of that polygamous sect as “fundamentalist Mormons” or “fundamentalist” members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
  2. We ask that, when reporting about this Texas-based polygamous sect or any other polygamous group, you avoid either explicitly or implicitly any inference that these groups are affiliated with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
  3. On those occasions when it may be necessary in your reporting to refer to the historical practice of plural marriage in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, that you make very clear that the Church does not condone the practice of polygamy and that it has been forbidden in the Church for over one hundred years. Moreover, we absolutely condemn arranged or forced “marriages” of underage girls to anyone under any circumstances.

Stated simply, we would like to be known and recognized for whom we are and what we believe, and not be inaccurately associated with beliefs and practices that we condemn in the strongest terms. We would be grateful if you could circulate or copy this letter to your editorial staff and to your legal counsel.

We thank you for your consideration of these important matters.

Sincerely,

Lance B. Wickman

General Counsel

309 posted on 06/15/2012 1:39:48 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Grig
Nor are our doctrines ‘made up’ but revealed by God.

HA ha!

Your sacred SECRET Temple Rituals are made up by men.

If they had been 'reveled' as you so unwisely claim; then would they NOT be in your SCRIPTURES somewhere?

311 posted on 06/15/2012 1:41:41 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Grig

Good Bye Grig, you son of satan. Float off to the netherworld with your celestial BS and framed pictures of Romney.


477 posted on 06/15/2012 11:22:50 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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