Russia Is Sending Attack Helicopters to Syria, U.S. Says

The Wall Street Journal ^ | 06/12/12 | Unattributed

[TonyInOhio]

WASHINGTON—The Obama administration says Russia is sending attack helicopters to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's regime and is warning about a dramatic escalation in the Arab country's 15-month conflict.

Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said the U.S. was "concerned about the latest information we have that there are attack helicopters on the way from Russia to Syria." She said the shipment "will escalate the conflict quite dramatically."

[tbw2]

It would make Russia look good to the remaining secular dictators by propping up Assad over the Jihadis.
It disrupts expansion of Jihadis who have been causing problems in Chechnya for years.
Protecting the Tartarus base keeps them relevant in the Mediterranean.
It keeps Russia relevant in world affairs. They could even say they are the new power in the Middle East since the U.S. is withdrawing from Iraq and Afghanistan and made things worse in Libya and Egypt by tossing missiles and letting extremists take over.

[Zhang Fei]

It didn’t take long for Syria’s and Russia’s concern trolls to give props to the dictator right in this thread. Thanks TonyInOhio.

I suspect for most people, it's not about Syria or Russia. During WWII, the West actively rooted for the Soviets not because they were these great humanitarians, but because they were cutting Hitler down to size. If the Soviets had played the role of aggressor instead of the Germans, we'd have been rooting for Nazi Germany.

In the post Cold War-era, Sunni Arabs have been the largest killers of Americans in the world. As far as I'm concerned, it would be no great loss to the planet if they were teleported to Andromeda.

The reflexive sympathy in the media for Sunni Arabs is nauseating. They have engineered large scale massacres of ethnic and religious minorities, including Christians, for over a thousand years. What I don't understand is this sudden show of concern for them - where was it when they were slaughtering Alawites, Christians and Druze off and on for 1000 years?

Then there's the issue of Sunni Arabs being simultaneously wicked and pathological liars. Take Houla, for example. Here's the latest from the National Review:

“According to eyewitness accounts,” the FAZ report continues, the massacre occurred during this time. Those killed were almost exclusively from families belonging to Houla’s Alawi and Shia minorities. Over 90% of Houla’s population are Sunnis. Several dozen members of a family were slaughtered, which had converted from Sunni to Shia Islam. Members of the Shomaliya, an Alawi family, were also killed, as was the family of a Sunni member of the Syrian parliament who is regarded as a collaborator. Immediately following the massacre, the perpetrators are supposed to have filmed their victims and then presented them as Sunni victims in videos posted on the internet.

The FAZ report echoes eyewitness accounts collected from refugees from the Houla region by members of the Monastery of St. James in Qara, Syria. According to monastery sources cited by the Dutch Middle East expert Martin Janssen, armed rebels murdered “entire Alawi families” in the village of Taldo in the Houla region.

Already at the beginning of April, Mother Agnès-Mariam de la Croix of the St. James Monastery warned of rebel atrocities’ being repackaged in both Arab and Western media accounts as regime atrocities. She cited the case of a massacre in the Khalidiya neighborhood in Homs. According to an account published in French on the monastery’s website, rebels gathered Christian and Alawi hostages in a building in Khalidiya and blew up the building with dynamite. They then attributed the crime to the regular Syrian army. “Even though this act has been attributed to regular army forces . . . the evidence and testimony are irrefutable: It was an operation undertaken by armed groups affiliated with the opposition,” Mother Agnès-Mariam wrote.

Bottom line is that the majority Sunni Arab inhabitants of Houla are still there, celebrating (1) the deaths of the Alawites they slaughtered in the Koranic manner and (2) their success in pinning the murders they committed on the Alawites themselves. It's like 9/11 all over - on the one hand Sunni Arabs get to kill thousands of infidels, and on the other, Sunni Arabs like Thierry Meyssan (described as "French" in every media article you might read) get to convince half of the world that the atrocity wasn't planned and carried out by Sunni Arabs. And every rebel fighter killed by the government is described as a demonstrator or a civilian. The Communists were amateurs at propaganda, compared to Sunni Arabs. The pro-rebel Ennahar on the way Sunni Arab rebels count casualties:

Those killed since March last year comprised 9,862 civilians, 3,470 soldiers and 783 army deserters, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.

The Britain-based watchdog counts rebel fighters who are not deserters from the army as civilians.

Note that these are also the numbers being used by the Western media.

[Zhang Fei]

It didn’t take long for Syria’s and Russia’s concern trolls to give props to the dictator right in this thread. Thanks TonyInOhio.

Some of it is also a reflexive reaction to the Sunni concern trolls in Congress, the White House, the media, and so on. Where were these concern trolls when Iraqi Christians were being driven out of Iraq? Why hasn't the White House agitated for air attacks on Sudan over the 200,000 Christians and animists slaughtered by Sunni Arabs there? Look - I'd take the complete destruction of the Sunni Arab regime in Sudan in exchange for the toppling or Assad. But that's obviously not in the cards. Are we the mamluks - the military slaves of the Sunni Arab world - doing what they want without pay?

[arrogantsob]

Hundreds of Christian churches have been destroyed by the rebels. If they take power far more will be and the pogroms will reach epidemic proportions.

[Quix]

Walid Shoebat in

GOD’S WAR ON TERROR

makes a convincing BIBLICAL case that the Ezekiel 38 war is the same war as Armageddon.

I reluctantly had to agree with his interpretation of the Scriptures outlining that.

Lera; wmfights; Ex-Texan

Please email me. I’m not authorized to answer any of my FREEPMAILS.

Thanks for sending them, nevertheless.

[Greysard]

“Actually the Russians are (most likely incidentally) protecting Christian rights in Syria.”

by facilitating mass murder of innocent women and children? Yeah that’s a real win win for Jesus - rolls eyes.

We already know that YHWH had an itchy trigger finger; women and children were a very specific and well defined part of the war.

But WWJD? Would he recommend millions of his followers to kneel in front of just a single guy with a sword? Or perhaps he would tell his followers to buy swords, even selling their cloaks if they needed money? It would make sense. Dead followers may be pure, but they are still dead, and the evil will be triumphant if the good does not fight back. A naked, armed man has better chances in that fight than a finely dressed but unarmed man.

I personally see the wave of Arab Springs as a well engineered construction of Caliphate. Muslims carefully waited until the West weakens itself enough and then they struck. Tinpot dictators, who were not really loved by anyone, fell like bowling pins. The fifth column (that was inserted into major countries, often into their government) did an excellent job by making the West fight for Muslims' interests. The wave of Muslim conquests is spreading - by a government edict in some countries, by the sword in other, by political correctness in yet another, by terrorism elsewhere, and by demographics everywhere. As things are, if Muslims are unopposed they will indeed conquer the world - and they will not be kind to infidels. The option of "highway" will be still available, but it will be very painful in the neck area. After all, what do they need those assorted infidels for, outside of slavery?

The Muslim world, judged by an informal network of mullahs and led by an informal network of jihadi leutenants, knows exactly what it wants. They even shout it from the rooftops for everyone to hear. OBL was speaking of their goals all the time; he was written off as a crazy man. Well, you should listen even to crazy men - it's them who are crazy, not you.

But the West does not want to listen. The West lives in its own reality distortion field, like the one where treehuggers go to Alaska to befriend grizzly bears. You can believe in whatever you want, but that doesn't affect the bear - he will eat you if he wants to. The West believes that if they look inward and apologize for their imaginary sins the Muslims will love them and the sky will be full of rainbows, and so on. That doesn't change the fact that Koran tells all faithful to slaughter infidels wherever they find them. But nobody wants to read Koran either. I recall another major book, written by an obscure German rebel in 1930's. In that book he told everyone, in plain text, what he intends to do. Nobody believed him either - not until all of Europe was awash in blood. What would a time traveler need to save tens of millions of innocents? Very little; something that you can hold in your hand would do nicely - but only if applied in time. [Yes, tons of Alternative History books explored this avenue.]

[ETL]

They could even say they are the new power in the Middle East since the U.S. is withdrawing from Iraq and Afghanistan

Bingo! That has been Obama and Putin's plan all along. Part of their "new world order".

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

In Donald Rumsfeld’s book he says during the Afghanistan operations, senators McCain and Graham skipped off holding hands on some kind of a gay wedding holiday to Uzbekistan and undermined the war effort there in the name of ‘human rights.’

Never mind that the local terrorist thugs were trying to storm a prison and free their lunatic comrades on May 13, 2005.

Rumsfeld’s documented account begins on page 633 of his hardback book Known and Unknown.

I urge everyone to buy this book, all proceeds go to families of soldiers who have fallen in the war on terrorism.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

There is nothing to worry about in Syria...

They will all become nice, moderate muslims when the ammunition runs out.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

I really don’t trust anything printed in Al Reuters ...

[ETL]

I really don’t trust anything printed in Al Reuters ...

I don't know why you would doubt KGB-Putin would praise Cold War 1 spies, but here's the same story from Accuracy In Media, a Conservative site:

"Putin, a former Soviet KGB officer, has just made headlines praising the Russian spies who stole U.S. atom bomb secrets.

Putin said, “You know, when the States already had nuclear weapons and the Soviet Union was only building them, we got a significant amount of information through Soviet foreign intelligence channels.” Putin was undoubtedly referring to atom bomb spies Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, members of the Communist Party who were executed for stealing U.S. atom bomb secrets on behalf of the Soviet Union. ..."

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/the-russians-and-american-progressives-together-again/

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

The US State Dept. was actively attempting to interfere in the recent Russian election in support of the communists.

Putin is certainly not our ideal of a political leader here in the USA, but he loves his country, which is something that we cannot say about the current administration with Hitlery Clintong and Sodom Hussein Obama.

[tsowellfan]

They are testing and the test has no winners

I beg to differ. Look who's in the White House. They will be the winners as usual.

[tsowellfan]

They (The Russians I should add)

[SJackson]

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[ETL]

Putin is certainly not our ideal of a political leader here in the USA, but he loves his country

He loved it much more when it was called the Soviet Union.

"the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the [20th] century" -Russian leader Vladimir Putin on the collapse of the Soviet Union...
"World democratic opinion has yet to realize the alarming implications of President Vladimir Putin's State of the Union speech on April 25, 2005, in which he said that the collapse of the Soviet Union represented the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.'
http://www.hooverdigest.org/053/beichman.html
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"'The Black Book of Communism,'; a scholarly accounting of communism’s crimes, counts about 94 million murdered by the supposed champions of the common man (20 million for the Soviets alone), and some say that number is too low."

Forgetting the Evils of Communism: The amnesia bites a little deeper
By Jonah Goldberg, August 2008:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZmY0MjI1MDgyYjg1M2UwNDMzMTk2Mjk5YTk0ZTdlMWE=
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[Eleutheria5]

Time for Mossad to ship some Stingers to the rebels, circa Afghan/Russian conflict. Have some techno-nerds upgrade them, give them to the MB idiots, and wish them good luck. Do NOT give them state-of-the-art anything.