Indiana First State to Allow Citizens to Shoot Law Enforcement Officers

AllGov ^ | June 11, 2012 | Noel Brinkerhoff

[Rennes Templar]

Police officers in Indiana are upset over a new law allowing residents to use deadly force against public servants, including law enforcement officers, who unlawfully enter their homes. It was signed by Republican Governor Mitch Daniels in March.

The first of its kind in the United States, the law was adopted after the state Supreme Court went too far in one of its rulings last year, according to supporters. The case in question involved a man who assaulted an officer during a domestic violence call. The court ruled that there was “no right to reasonably resist unlawful entry by police officers.”

The National Rifle Association lobbied for the new law, arguing that the court decision had legalized police to commit unjustified entries.

Tim Downs, president of the Indiana State Fraternal Order of Police, which opposed the legislation, said the law could open the way for people who are under the influence or emotionally distressed to attack officers in their homes.

“It’s just a recipe for disaster,” Downs told Bloomberg. “It just puts a bounty on our heads.”

[lupie]

Oh, ok. Thanks for the info. I had never heard that before.

[muawiyah]

Barnes said he moved. He did not challenge his wife's claim that the black bag was the last thing.

I'm sorry, that bad boy was outta' there.

Again, no reason to be there at all ~ and he touched the officer.

[skinkinthegrass]

"That was a heck of a kick to shatter his own leg.
He needs lay off the steroids..."well, not necessarily
...in the martial arts (as a Nidan); we're taught & practice
"stomp kicks"; doing it "imprecisely" really hurts bad.
btw...they now have devices, that performs that function.

[Ratman83]

Yes and the trial court would not let him use as a jury instruction in his defense. The Court of Appeals said that he should have been able to use it and that it was not harmless error. The Supreme Court just ignored the common-law right to reasonably resist unlawful entry by police officers. They concluded that public policy disfavors any such right.

[papertyger]

Barnes attempt to prevent the officer from meeting with the woman could well have been taken in what amounts to kidnapping almost anywhere.

He did not prevent her from leaving the home.

Doesn't reaching up your poop chute that much, hurt?

[muawiyah]

You are applying standards not found everywhere. Some of the state laws don’t care who opened the door, nor even if the intruder is there lawfully.

[Blue Highway]

There was not a domestic abuse call made. No reason for the cops to speculate even though she called them for whatever reason. Kidnapping from refusing their entry into a residence is a stretch. Nice try there.

Also were you saying good job to the cops or the people that were firing at the transformer that the sewer company was doing late night construction? My praise would be to the people firing at the transformer, not the cops. Hell the cops should have been there for the multiple violations and yet somehow where were they?

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

You think it was tough getting the cops to deal with crime before, now there's no reason whatsoever for them to do so.

There never has seemed to be a actual reason for them to deal with crime. They are very good at writing reports.

So I move that we fire the lot of them since according to you they are a bunch of whinny little girls.

(Apologies to all the whinny little girls I offended with that remark.)

[Blue Highway]

your response makes no sense. An intruder by definition is someone there unlawfully or illegally. How can you have a lawful intruder?

[lupie]

Look up his bio on the internet.

Someone did post it. It isn't a very close relationship.

Now, just who are you to doubt my assertion that an Arab American is, in fact, an Arab American well known by nearly everyone meaningful to be an Arab American!

Now, don't get your shorts in a wad! :) I have no doubt that I am not a meaningful person, but I have paid some attention to Daniels and had never heard him called an Arab American before. I also know a very solid Christian young man who works for him, who I know would not work for a Muslim sympathizer. So, to see that you hint that Daniels is a Muslim sympathizer because he is an Arab American, I was curious as to why you said 1) that he was an Arab American, and 2) that you hinted that he was a closet Muslim sympathizer because of that "fact". I was curious (still am) as to why you make those claims and what proof you have to back it up. I really don't care who knows what. That is one thing I have always liked about FR - you can't say anything absurb without someone asking you to back it up with facts. That is all I was doing - asking you for your facts to back up your statement. Why should I believe anything without the facts? Why should anyone?

[papertyger]

He did not challenge his wife's claim that the black bag was the last thing.

Doesn't matter. You do not give up rights to your residence without formal process.

[jboot]

They aren’t helping me now. Only thing I’ve ever gotten from cops is a ticket and an attitude.

Key point. Cops no longer exist to protect and serve, they exist to enforce. If there is nothing to enforce, and they become sufficiently interested in you, they will FIND something. You interact with them at your peril.

[Blue Highway]

I know somehow I doubt this man is part Syrian? I don't see it AT ALL...

[Ratman83]

The door was open. The doorway was occupied by a person. The police tried to move that person to enter, they tried to do a unlawful entry.

Look, guys, I don't really care if you beat your women, but keep it at home Stop projecting you own actions on others.

[papertyger]

In the final analysis, the only real function of the police is to keep society from killing off its deviants.

[muawiyah]

You really think you can hide your motives in this debate?

It's hardly my projection.

Keep it down in there and stay off my grass! Your noisy kids too.