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Spread of 'baby boxes' in Europe alarms United Nations
guardianuk ^ | Sunday 10 June 2012 09.13 EDT | Randeep Ramesh,

Posted on 06/11/2012 11:52:48 AM PDT by BenLurkin

The UN Committee on the Rights of the Child, which reports on how well governments respect and protect children's human rights, is alarmed at the prevalence of the hatches – usually outside a hospital – which allow unwanted newborns to be left in boxes with an alarm or bell to summon a carer.

Their proponents draw on the language of the pro-life lobby and claim the baby boxes "protect a child's right to life" and have saved "hundreds of newborns". There are differing opinions on this key social issue across Europe. In France and Holland women have the right to remain anonymous to their babies after giving birth, while in the UK it remains a crime to secretly abandon a child.

However UN officials argue that baby hatches violate key parts of the Convention on the Rights of the Child (UNCRC) which says children must be able to identify their parents and even if separated from them the state has a "duty to respect the child's right to maintain personal relations with his or her parent".

There is evidence that the baby box idea is popular. A Swiss poll in 2011 found 87% saying baby boxes were "very useful or useful" and more than a quarter of respondents thought every hospital should have one.

Herczog said that the committee is undeterred. "We review countries' adherence to the convention. We did Czech Republic. Austria is coming up. I cannot say for sure but I can imagine we will do the same for Austria (as the Czech Republic)".

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: babyboxes; moralabsolutes; prolife
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The U.N. taking another principled stand for evil.
1 posted on 06/11/2012 11:52:54 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

What should the UN do in this situation?


2 posted on 06/11/2012 11:56:30 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: BenLurkin

Can we have a poll on wether the UN should be banned, please?

And on wether all its creatures should go in a dungeon?


3 posted on 06/11/2012 11:58:26 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (nobody gives me warheads anyway))
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To: BenLurkin

I can kind of agree that it is a violation of the kid’s rights not to be able to identify its parents, but OTOH, it is a vastly superior alternative to slaughtering them, so it is a neccessary evil...


4 posted on 06/11/2012 11:59:14 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: stuartcr

>> “What should the UN do in this situation?” <<

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The same thing the Deep Space probe in Star Trek did:

Admit that it is defective beyond repair, and detonate itself.


5 posted on 06/11/2012 12:03:53 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: BenLurkin

can’t these mothers just find a safe and legal place to dismember these children before they are born?


6 posted on 06/11/2012 12:07:33 PM PDT by MNDude
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What should the UN do in this situation?

Mass-suicide of all UN bureaucrats would be a nice start.

7 posted on 06/11/2012 12:08:48 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

-—I can kind of agree that it is a violation of the kid’s rights not to be able to identify its parents, but OTOH, it is a vastly superior alternative to slaughtering them, so it is a neccessary evil...——

Agree.


8 posted on 06/11/2012 12:11:37 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: editor-surveyor

Does not compute.


9 posted on 06/11/2012 12:12:06 PM PDT by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: Hardraade
Let them move to this lovely building in North Korea:

10 posted on 06/11/2012 12:18:47 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: BenLurkin

The U.N. is an abomination.


11 posted on 06/11/2012 12:23:31 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Godebert

Then detonate yourself!


12 posted on 06/11/2012 12:24:59 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: BenLurkin

The people who want to block the Baby Boxes are evil. There is no better word to describe them.


13 posted on 06/11/2012 12:46:56 PM PDT by BigBobber
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To: stuartcr
What should the UN do in this situation?

Nothing. Not a d-mn thing.

14 posted on 06/11/2012 12:55:32 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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re: “children must be able to identify their parents and even if separated from them the state has a “duty to respect the child’s right to maintain personal relations with his or her parent”.

Well doesn’t that eliminate all closed adoptions (where the child does not know who the birth parents are)? What is the alternative? The UN promotes abortion, which “solves” the problem sufficiently for the UN crowd.


15 posted on 06/11/2012 1:02:43 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: Vigilanteman
Not sure why but that reminds me of Logan's Run
16 posted on 06/11/2012 1:06:07 PM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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"However UN officials argue that baby hatches violate key parts of the Convention on the Rights of the Child (UNCRC) which says children must be able to identify their parents and even if separated from them the state has a "duty to respect the child's right to maintain personal relations with his or her parent"."

And if the children cannot "maintain personal relations" and "identify their parents", what then? Baby hatches are a "violation" so what, kill them before they are born? Is that their solution? Where is the UN going with this reasoning?

17 posted on 06/11/2012 1:07:45 PM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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As the mom of 3 adopted kids I support baby boxes.

It’s true my kids will never know their birthparents, but in all honesty, that bothers me more than it appears to bother them. They are grown up now, and all I can say is that they are all anti-abortion and pro-adoption.

So I guess they prefer the life they have over the alternative.


18 posted on 06/11/2012 1:08:52 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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As the mom of 3 adopted kids I support baby boxes.

It’s true my kids will never know their birthparents, but in all honesty, that bothers me more than it appears to bother them. They are grown up now, and all I can say is that they are all anti-abortion and pro-adoption.

So I guess they prefer the life they have over the alternative.


19 posted on 06/11/2012 1:09:02 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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which says children must be able to identify their parents

Question--it's not a problem for the vast majority to identify their mother, but what about all the kids out there whose paternity is questionable? Is the UN demanding their rights? Just wondering.

20 posted on 06/11/2012 1:11:04 PM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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