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To: Free ThinkerNY
To the Bushes, it is all about amnesty.

And since Reagan signed an amnesty law, they think that he would be rejected nowadays.

However, Reagan did not have past experience when he signed that law, and instead of making things better, it made things worse.

Reagan showed in his history that he learned from his mistakes.

Whereas the Bush clan demands such mistakes be repeated.

12 posted on 06/11/2012 11:14:42 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

I was not in favor of the 1986 Amnesty. That being said, it did seek to address what was considered to be one million illegals that had accumulated over the prior thirty years.

Reagan was assured there were only about one million illegals in country when he pondered this bill. Eisenhower was president the last time immigration issues were addressed. That would mean that only about 33,000 or so illegals had been coming over the border each year.

Even so, Reagan viewed this as a problem that needed to be addressed. He did sign on to legalize one million illegals, but he also saw to it that new stiff sanctions were place on private businesses, that hired illegals. There were other preventative measures implemented as well.

What Reagan couldn’t control, was the enforcement future presidents would follow through with. After Reagan, our presidents essentially turned a blind eye to illegal immigration. Starting with the Elder Bush, he Clinton, Bush, and Obama have turned a blind eye to illegal immigration. Bush the ignorant (2), actually ran on a platform of Amnesty.

Reagan’s amnesty resulted in 3.5 million people being naturalized. He was clearly lied to, about the true magnitude of illegals in the nation. Today they say we have 10 million. They’ve been saying that since shortly after 2000, when we had nine million in country.

If we legalize today, we’ll have between 20 and 35 million illegal immigrants line up to official change the makeup of this nation forever.

I’m a little tired of watching Reagan get any of the blame for what is taking place with regard to illegal immigration. We knew what the arrests were in the early 90s. We knew the implications. We knew we were being over-run. Many of us were furious about it.

Rezgan didn’t sign on to this. There is no way Ronald Reagan would have stood by and watched our nation flooded with the citizens of other nations, illegally.

When Bush ran for office in 2000, he ran on a platform of amnesty (in part). When he did that, the number of illegals exploded, with our IRS capturing over 900,000 illegals in just nine months. Traditionally, the IRS acknowledges that it only stops only 10 to 20% of the flow. The dire implications of that, were crystal clear. Did our presidents do anything about it? Essentially no.

Going back to Reagan to discuss this matter, is evidence of a major jump over absolutely traitorous people who came along after him.

Reagan did his best to plug a small hole, and those who came along behind him did their best to unplug every bigger holes. They did it for political gain. I consider that criminal in nature. There’s a big difference in trying to fix a problem, and trying to unfix one.


32 posted on 06/11/2012 11:31:17 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: dirtboy

“Reagan showed in his history that he learned from his mistakes.”

First of all, Reagan was up there in the top 2 or 3 greatest presidents IMHO.

But, Reagan did ban the open carry of loaded guns in California (due to the Black Panther’s carrying them at parades, on the courthouse steps, etc.)

And when he was out of office after being president, he had voiced his support for the Brady Bill.

I always wonder about the internet and Reagan’s election. If people had been able to bring up all the old votes, old comments, etc. that Reagan had made over the years - especially when he was a Democrat, would he have still been elected?

It seems that with all the information we have at our hands now-a-days it is too easy to find too many opposing views about them, making it REALLY hard to find someone that we think we can agree with 80% of the time (or whatever percent Reagan said).


50 posted on 06/11/2012 12:06:38 PM PDT by 21twelve
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