[CitizenUSA]

I once thought the Eurozone was going to collapse. Then I read a FReeper’s post where they explained socialists ALWAYS double down for more government when their programs fail. In fact, this “crisis” was probably part of the original plan all along, much like Obamacare was always intended as a step toward single payer, nationalized health care.

Utopian statists see government as the ultimate solution for every ill. They aren't going to just throw up their arms, admit their mistakes, and let people escape their grasp. That's not to say they won't ultimately fail, but I have no doubt they're going to try and create an all-powerful European nation state.

[Olog-hai]

More of an empire than a nation-state. Of course, the ideologues in the USSR (which the EU is patterned after) saw themselves as the “nation state” of the fictitious “Soviet people”, and in the same way, the EU ideologues are trying to create a fictitious “European people” . . .

[BobL]

“That’s not to say they won’t ultimately fail, but I have no doubt they’re going to try and create an all-powerful European nation state. “

The elites there want it so bad, you can read it right between the lines. They either have to dissolve into separate countries (or even city-states, in some cases), or they have to unify at least to the level of the United States - which means what were their ‘nations’ become subservient to Brussels for just about everything. They may even be forced to settle on a single language (I’d love to be a fly on the wall during that debate).

As the article says, everything else, budgets, retirement age, defense, etc. would simply be flowed down to them from Brussels. Yes, Paris would still exist, as an administrative zone.

[BobL]

oh yea...almost forgot.

It won’t be 5 to 10 years, as the article states - it will be one weekend (maybe a holiday weekend). There will be an agreement with the leaders and that will be that.