Posted on 06/10/2012 3:02:05 PM PDT by SMGFan
The Obama campaign wants to make the 2012 contest a “choice” between its candidate and the Republican party; the Romney campaign wants to make the vote a referendum on Barack Obama. Mitt Romney is laying low, letting the election revolve around Obama--and winning. While his campaign pushes back against Obama and the mainstream media, Romney is shaking hands on the trail--and winning support in key swing states.
At the outset, Romney’s path to victory seemed a narrow one. It was universally agreed that the 2012 contest would be fought in roughly ten swing states. But Obama’s weak economic performance, and Romney’s quietly effective campaign, has narrowed the field of play. It is now reasonable to imagine that Romney will win in North Carolina and Florida--two states that Obama won in 2008 and that he will likely lose this time around.
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We should probably be looking at who to unite behind in 2016 assuming that the winner of 2012 leaves anything but ruins for the conservatives.
I just hope that after Romney loses, his fans will be willing to join with real conservatives to create a united unanimous front.
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Have you considered that if Romney loses, there may never be an election such as we know it ever again?
My rule is somewhat different: vote for the most conservative of the the Conservatives running, or write in a Conservative if neither fits the bill. Under your rule or mine, I will vote for Virgil Goode, as things stand now.
(all that said my support for Romney in this election is determined - all that remains is whether my support switches to someone else, the day AFTER the next election)
If Romney’s VP is someone I respect, I am on his team.
If it’s someone I oppose, I will switch sides the day AFTER the next election...
>> Can Governor Bob McDonnell carry VA for the GOP if he is the VP pick? <<Somebody (maybe Dick Morris) recently said that any GOP presidential nominee who NEEDS to pick the Gov of Virginia to win the state of Virginia is already in deep, deep trouble.Yes, but the matter isn’t really important, because IMO Virginia is already in the bag for the GOP. So a McDonnell nomination would probably be a waste.
>> Would he be a better VP candidate than Marco Rubio who could probably deliver FL and a lot of Hispanic votes? <<
I’d say not. As much as I like McDonnell (and I live in Virginia), his recent interviews with the MSM have been mediocre. Actually, disappointing. I don’t believe he’s ready for prime time at the national level.
Rubio, on the other hand, is much more articulate — seems to think faster on his feet. So even though I’m not ready to favor Rubio over ALL of the other choices, I’d definitely pick him over McDonnell.
I don't think that's the case with Romney and for that reason alone, along with your observations about McDonnell's basic mediocrity, I think McDonnell is unlikely.
As for Rubio, I like Rubio but is he eligible? That's the big question with Rubio.
I much prefer Alan West.
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Actually, Romney has an argument: Obamacare requires the abuse of the Commerce Clause in unprecedented ways (by month’s end he may be able to say it was unconstitutional with the backing of a SCOTUS ruling), while Romneycare was within the powers reserved to the states and the people by the 10th Amendment. Trot out the states as the laboratories of democracy trope. “In left-leaning Massachusetts where people are comfortable with government economic intervention and expect lots of government services,” Romney can say, “we tried one approach. Other states should be free to try other approaches to health care reform, not have a heavy-handed version of what we tried in Massachusetts imposed on them from Washington.”He has another argument that he has already at least mentioned in one or two of the early Republican Primary debates: RomneyCare is 2 pages. ObamaCare is 2300 pages.
That's a big freaking difference. Anyone can read RomneyCare and see what's in it. No one can read ObamaCare and understand what it will do.
No one.
I'm just wondering why 350 is a "barrier" ...I don't know if 350 is a barrier or what the barrier actually is but I do know this, the California of 1980 and 1984 is completely obliterated. Completely gone. California will not be in the Republican column again. Not in our lifetimes. And that's just one example of how things are different now than when Reagan got his blow-out numbers.
How about uniting for Romney right now so that our country can see 2016?
If Romney runs an unexpectedly terrible campaign, I could join you.
As for Rubio, I like Rubio but is he eligible?
I much prefer Alan West.
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I love Alan West. I could definitely go with him in the VP slot and I think he could “help” carry FL. But, to be honest with you, I know many people, including some of my family members, who have never been prejudiced. But, after B. Obama, they say they will NEVER vote for a Black man again. I guess that’s racist; huh?
unless 'President Romney' is a far worse political operator than 0bama himself, he will be essentially a lock for renomination in 2016, and anyone believing otherwise needs to put down the bongYou are absolutely right. If Romney wins the presidency in 2012, the chances of him losing the Republican nomination in 2016 are vanishingly small.
Let's put an arbitrary number on "vanishingly small" and say a Republican challenger against a President Romney for the nomination in 2016 has the proverbial "one chance in a million".
Now let's look at that number, one chance in a million.
The decimal equivalent of that is: .000001
Now let's talk about the chances of Tom Hoefling being elected president in 2012.
I would say that Hoefling's chances of receiving 270 electoral votes are, at a maximum, a millionth of the chances of President Romney's mythical primary challenger in 2016 taking the nomination away from Romney.
That's at a maximum. I would say the real number is a millionth of a millionth.
Put all those numbers together and you have 1e-18, or .000000000000000001 for Hoefling's chances, or one chance in a billion billion.
Even if someone reliably offered me such astronomical odds, I wouldn't waste a nickle on the bet.
But you're willing to waste the vote that the Founders created for you and that countless men and women in arms gave their lives to protect. That's pretty funny, really, when you think about it.
But, as any of the Founders would agree with, it is your right to flush your vote down whatever toilet you see fit. We are, after all, the Land of the Free. (That is, until Obamugabe gets a second term.)
I know many people, including some of my family members, who have never been prejudiced. But, after B. Obama, they say they will NEVER vote for a Black man again.Well, that might be true and maybe unavoidable but it's really too bad because what's wrong with Obamugabe isn't that he's a "black man" but that he's a freaking commie jihad-sympathizing American-hating closet faggot crack cocaine smoker who's not even eligible by birth to hold the office he holds.
There are a lot of good Black Americans out there (Alan West is just one of them) and it really is a shame that that shining POS in the WH is giving anyone else a bad name but himself.
If Romney wins on a landslide, surely a glowing mandate from Americans that they love this open-minded Republican from Massachusetts, how much heat do you think "real conservatives" would yield against a moderate president joined by moderate GOPE and moderates already in Congress? When that president was swept in by a landslide "mandate" to extend the brand of conservatism he championed in Massachusetts?
Oh, I know, right now that's not the way it is, and we all -- including Romney -- know it. Now it's about ABO. There's a hysteria on the wind, the mantra "we can't survive another four years" of a despised sockpuppet scarecrow when conservatives are united and gaining in Congress. Maybe the hysteria is right.
Though it's probably wrong. Obama isn't All Powerful Oz.
We had better hope our conservatives in Congress can hold Romney accountable for all the promises he made (what promises?), because Romney has always played hardball in power politics. About the best thing to hope for is that conservatives are a majority among the Republicans. Romney was a ruthless campaigner; people who say "he's not a fighter" need to ask how he got to where he is. This part 2 of the 2008 primary campaign. Romney is dogged.
And he would be dogged in his opposition of the "minority" conservative Republicans who would fight his takes on global warming, nationalied health care, activist judges, abortion, and the gay agenda. After all, Romney was, his people would constantly remind us, given a huge mandate. People wanted him in charge!
And watch things careen "severely" left.
It's my duty to vote -- and I decline to vote for either of those two -- I will vote for breaking down their mandate by voting for a third party on-the-ballot name. It's the third option and, by my calculations, the one in the best interest of limited government conservatism.
Rubio knows he is inelegible to be President or Vice President under the strict definition of natural born citizen.
Romney must not/not select him as VP and thereby engage the RNC in the endorsement of the DNC fraud of 2008.
Jim, is that you?
Tom Hoefling represents my only chance to “win” if the word is to be given any meaningful definition. I don’t believe I can win by helping to elect either of the two “major” choices.
Don’t let the uncertainty of the future terrorize and incapacitate you. We will have another election in 2016.
Trust God. Reject evil.
A chance to win...what?
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