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To: marktwain
There was absolutely no need for the law. Self defense and/or protecting your home is sufficient.

Zimmerman...that was the guy that got his head bashed....acted in self defense...PERIOD.

If Tray was a good boy, he would have been in school.

And Tray's own web site speaks volumes...along with the "practice street fighting" video.

13 posted on 06/10/2012 5:19:28 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

True enough, the law didn’t figure in the Tray/Zimm altercation.

I’d disagree about there being “no need” for it, as the body of judge made law was trending against 2nd amendment rights. This law ratified what ought to have been common sense but which became uncommon.


15 posted on 06/10/2012 5:25:45 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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To: Sacajaweau
“There was absolutely no need for the law. Self defense and/or protecting your home is sufficient.”

No, there was a need for the law. It prevents the perp’s family from filing suit and you get two bites at the apple to defend yourself in court, once before a judge, and once before a judge and jury.

17 posted on 06/10/2012 5:28:07 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Sacajaweau
When Florida went from Common Law to Code Law the right of self defense went with with it. Florida does not have a Self Defense Law. Ask a State Attorney. Or better yet, ask a prisin inmate who is doing time for an offense he/she condidered self defense. Also, in Florida, one cannot use deadly force to defend one's property.

At the time this law was enacted, the law abiding citizen desparately needed the protection this law offered.

However, it was not universally appreicated.Among its foes were Liberals, some Sheriffs,some Police Chiefs, State Attorneys, newspaper editoral boards, etal.

19 posted on 06/10/2012 5:34:08 AM PDT by sport
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To: Sacajaweau
There was absolutely no need for the law. Self defense and/or protecting your home is sufficient.

Here is what the law does. It prevents a Leftist sheriff/prosecutor from arresting you and making you stand trial to prove that it was self-defense, and it also prevents the perp or their family from suing you. Something that is financially devastating to most people.

The law came about, because it was necessary to keep the government in check.

20 posted on 06/10/2012 5:35:18 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Sacajaweau

“Circuit Judge Joseph Will, who has never presided over a stand your ground case but has studied the law, said the statute essentially makes it easier for people to shoot first and ask for forgiveness later.I think it’s a bad idea in a society where someone is packing heat on every corner to make it easier to shoot each other,” he said.

Bet the farm that this “judge” has six armed deputies in the courthouse, ready to protect his left-wing a$$. He’s part of the worthless elitist scum who have infiltrated our government and believes in old England serfdom: One law for me and another for thee.

Scum like this pig judge need to be turned out of office and given a one-way ticket to North Korea.

Do your duty, Florida patriots.


30 posted on 06/10/2012 6:09:56 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Public unions exist to protect the unions from the taxpaying public)
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To: Sacajaweau
There was absolutely no need for the law. Self defense and/or protecting your home is sufficient.

No, there's a very good reason for the law that's never mentioned by MSM reports. SYG at least the Florida version, confers immunity from civil liability for justifiable use of deadly force.

That's a major club in the hands of the anti-gun crowd. Even if you were 100% justified in using deadly force to defend yourself, they got to destroy you, financially, for daring to do so.

Further, the Florida supreme court has held that using a firearm to defend your home is a voluntary act, therefore your legal expenses were not covered by homeowners insurance, as in other states.

So both anti-gunners and ambulance chasers, no strangers to public relations campaigns, both despise SYG, because it took away the blade they used to bleed you dry for defending yourself.

43 posted on 06/10/2012 7:08:54 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: Sacajaweau
“There was absolutely no need for the law. Self defense and/or protecting your home is sufficient.”

There absolutely is a need for this law!
Don't pretend that there has ever existed a “law” protecting ones right to inflict lethal self defense in your home or business, BEFORE YOU ARE INJURED.

I moved around a lot in my younger years. I always called the local LEOs to find out what local “rules” applied to me, as a citizen concerned about my personal safety, but unable to afford armed bodyguards.
There are always quirks about carrying a weapon in your POV, and almost always, there was a presumption that I would have to wait untill my last physical barriors (doors or windows) were actually breached, and the intruder/attacker was within arms reach, before I would be considered “allowed” to defend myself by any means necessary.
In the real world, innocent people are regularly incarcerated for a year or two before the courts bestir themselves to finally hold an actual trial to “sort it all out”.

And yes, I support my home state SYG law.
When seconds count, the police are minutes away.

BTW, my car was recently stolen, but since I reported it immediately, when it was “found abandoned” a few days later, the police notified me where it was towed too.
They did not even bother to take fingerprints, or even pretend to investigate the crime, or make any attempt to find the thief.

I wonder what they would do if I had been sitting in the car, and somone tried to steal it from me, and I shot them dead instead.

You appear to believe I had a natural right to defend my property and myself. I didn't before SYG. I do now.

60 posted on 06/10/2012 9:42:49 PM PDT by sarasmom ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xZsFe6dM3EY)
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