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How did Scott Walker win so big and what's next?
IBD Editorials ^ | June 6, 2012 | ANDREW MALCOM

Posted on 06/06/2012 5:31:31 PM PDT by Kaslin

"Win" is too small a word for what Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker pulled off Tuesday. So, probably, is victory.

In a referendum on the first half of his first term, the Republican became the first governor in U.S. history to defeat an attempt to oust him from office. The other two recall efforts -- against California's Gray Davis in 2003 and North Dakota's Lynn Frazier in 1921 --were successful.

Exit polls discovered a significant number of Wisconsin voters bothered by the union-led recall bid for something short of improper conduct. While others were impressed by Walker's budget surplus and billion dollar in state savings already. And Walker's national party reputation wasn't hurt either.

With 99% of the votes counted, Walker received 53% (1,326,658) to Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett's 46% (1,150,233) and 1% for a third candidate.

But those numbers understate Walker's success. He took 60 of the state's 72 counties and beat Barrett by two more points than he did in 2010. Walker's lieutenant governor, Rebecca Kleefisch, also defeated a recall bid.

As might be expected, 94% of Republicans and 93% of Tea Party supporters went for Walker. Barrett took 91% of Democrats and 86% of liberals. Walker, however, captured 54% of the crucial independent vote to Barrett's 45%.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: scottwalker; wi2012; wirecall; wisconsinshowdown
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1 posted on 06/06/2012 5:31:34 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
It may be that labor unions should not be outlawed [as I'd like,] but making them optional, as Walker has by eliminating the state's obligation to deduct dues automatically, might just be enough.

People don't join when they don't have to.

2 posted on 06/06/2012 5:35:26 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: Kaslin

He had an agenda, it was meaningful, he came through with it and the results were what he promised.


3 posted on 06/06/2012 5:38:32 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Kaslin

I just heard on Levin that he actually won by a larger margin in the recall than he did when he won the seat in the first place. That’s saying something.


4 posted on 06/06/2012 5:41:02 PM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: EGPWS

He won because he produced, and he showed others how to produce the same way.

If only the fool we have here in Maryland would take a peek at what Walker did we could dig ourselves out of debt too.


5 posted on 06/06/2012 5:43:48 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: EGPWS

Ditto for Reagan. And look where that got us. It eventually got us Clinton and the kenyan. America HAS learned a VERY BIG LESSON from the kenyan, and we are sick to our stomachs. Unfortunately, the lesson will be forgotten in 15 minutes, and when the dems run a radical lesbian feminist hispanic communist who has chairman mao’s face tattooed onto her forehead, the press will speak of how “historic” the election is, and the American voter will put her in the Oval Office in 10 seconds flat. BANK ON IT.


6 posted on 06/06/2012 5:43:55 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: BfloGuy

Labor unions were a great thing when they got their members paid according to the fair market value of their work. But when they went political, they had outlived their usefulness.


7 posted on 06/06/2012 5:47:30 PM PDT by wolfpat (Not to know what has been transacted in former times is to be always a child. -- Cicero)
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To: wolfpat

What was keeping them from being paid the market wage before the unions? I always read about y number of men going on strike and 10 X y number of men showing up for their jobs. In other words, they were making market wage.


8 posted on 06/06/2012 5:49:44 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: BfloGuy

Scott Walker won because EVERYONE CAME OUT TO VOTE. When everyone votes, Republicans win. Let that be a lesson for November.


9 posted on 06/06/2012 5:53:49 PM PDT by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates)
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To: Kaslin
I say he won the old-fashioned American way: by doing the right thing and telling the truth.

That invariably shocks the socks off Marxists.

10 posted on 06/06/2012 5:56:24 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: Hildy

I think November will be the largest turnout at the polls in history.


11 posted on 06/06/2012 5:57:13 PM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: Kaslin
All the media I have read/heard keep talking about Walker taking away all bargaining rights.

That is wrong on two counts. First, he took away their WAGE bargaining rights, not all their bargaining rights. Second, and more important--public sector unions should never have had those wage bargaining rights. They were not bargaining with the people who paid them their salaries and raises; they were bargaining with politicians who worked out a quid pro quo with the unions to extract ever more taxes from "the people" and raise union wages in return for union support to stay in office.

vaudine

12 posted on 06/06/2012 5:58:57 PM PDT by vaudine
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he won because he did what he said he would. Their state is in much better shape and the people know it.

Obama will lose because he did what he said he would. The country is on the cliff and the people know it..

It’s about the record. The media did their level best to hide Obama’s past and now they can no longer do that.


13 posted on 06/06/2012 6:00:43 PM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: vaudine

I’m distressed by the fact that the narrative currently in vogue, (even among conservatives, and this is horrifying for what it means for the future of the country) seems to run like this,

“Public sector unions are REALLY bad. There are some bad things in private sector unions, too, but they aren’t pure evil like public sector unions. Private sector unions, especially at the turn of the century, were actually pretty good.”

This is pure BS! It is very, very, very scary when, even here on FR, for Pete’s sake, people do not recognize ALL UNIONS AS GOVERNMENT SANCTIONED THEFT OF PRIVATE PROPERTY FOR THE PURPOSE OF BUYING DEMOCRAT VOTES.

I expect ignorance of this fact elsewhere, but here on FR??????????????????????

Here’s how the purely evil, anti-American, communistic, welfare-begging private sector unions work…..

I set up a business, using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY (my capital and/or cash money).
I pay for the space, using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY.
I pay the taxes using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY.
I supply the parts and inventory, using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY.
I pay for the insurance, using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY.
I pay the labor, using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY.
I recruit, hire, and advertise, using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY.
Oftentimes an entire life’s savings (MY PRIVATE PROPERTY) is at stake.
My future, my standing in the community, my credit, and MY PRIVATE PROPERTY are all at stake.
If I fail, I stand a good chance of being economically crippled for life.

One day, on MY PRIVATE PROPERTY that I own and acquired using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY, one of my employees, who is only in my presence because of the risk of MY PRIVATE PROPERTY, comes to me and says, “Here’s the story, Bub. From this moment forward I am going to begin organizing your other employees to work AGAINST YOUR PRIVATE INTERESTS and do everything in our power to TAKE BY FORCE AS MUCH OF YOUR PRIVATE PROPERTY AS WE CAN GET OUR HANDS ON. We are going to spend a great deal of time and effort ORGANIZING AGAINST YOUR INTERESTS TO DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO GROW STRONGER AT YOUR EXPENSE, IN ORDER TO TAKE YOUR MONEY. You might as well have your business competitors working here on the shop floor. If you do not agree to our demands, we will go on strike, make your life miserable, harass and threaten and/or MURDER IN COLD BLOOD anybody you may want to hire in our place.”

Now the one and ONLY way that such a thing could EVER take place is for the government to step in and say, “Mr. Employer, if you fire this union man, you are going to jail.”

Plainly and simply, no union could ever exist in a free society. Yes, in a free society, you should be able to form and join a union of any type at any time for any purpose whatsoever. AND YOUR EMPLOYER SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIRE YOUR HAPPY ASS IN A HEARTBEAT FOR DOING SO. FREEDOM IS A TWO WAY STREET.

I find this ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. Truly. A man strolls onto the PRIVATE PROPERTY of another man and tells him how he will employ his PRIVATE PROPERTY going forward, OR ELSE!, and hundreds of millions, if not billions, of people the world over think that the first man is not only somehow better than sub-human filth, they actually see him as a hero! To me, this is one of the most perverse and mystifying examples of twisted human thinking the world has ever seen. I can’t say it enough; you come onto my PRIVATE PROPERTY, and bargain with me, using the THREAT OF GOVERNMENT SANCTIONED FORCE, about how much of my PRIVATE PROPERTY you will allow me to keep! And this is somehow acceptable?

As I say, even conservatives, (who have escaped the liberal brainwashing that begins when we are still in the womb on guns, race, US history, etc., etc., and do not subscribe to the easy notions that are so readily picked up by the unthinking) seem to fall for this trap. Seem to believe that…

“The work place is filled with mean managers and mean bosses who were/are really mean to kids and women and workers and paid them pennies instead of the legitimate millions that they were REALLY worth, making evil white male capitalists even richer, and they enslaved them and coerced them and made them work real hard and were really, really mean. THANK GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for the government stepping in and saving women and children from mean bosses and really mean white capitalist men.”

Needless to say, each and every single word of that narrative is as totally false and ridiculous as the liberal narrative on US history, or bad guns, or evil white men. If you know people who believe that stuff, you cannot help them. Do not waste your breath on them, do not do their research for them; have them read Sowell or Williams or von Hayek, or von Mises, or Friedman, or even Stossel when they write of “sweatshops” either in today’s 3rd world or in America at the turn of the century.


14 posted on 06/06/2012 6:01:43 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: Kaslin
"Exit polls discovered a significant number of Wisconsin voters bothered by the union-led recall bid for something short of improper conduct."

They are simply bullies and appearantly the hosts are becoming "fed up" with the parasites.

15 posted on 06/06/2012 6:02:22 PM PDT by wesagain (The God (Elohim) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: Kaslin
 
 
 
 
After watching and listening to Walker's post-election remarks, I think I know what's "next" - I believe he wants to work on getting Wisconsin's politics internalized by giving outside meddlers the boot. It would take time and a lot of patient work on his part, but it can be done, must be done, to get all those out-of-state intruders out of the loop and the conducting of state business insulated against outside tampering. It's been over the top at an oppressive level for over a year - enough is enough already.
 
 
 

16 posted on 06/06/2012 6:06:14 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: mosaicwolf

The Tree of Liberty is being watered again. But not by our blood, but that of the destroyers.

I’m trying to think of FReepers most literate about Tocqueville and if he saw this coming. Seems like he saw this tipping point, but I don’t recall him calling a winner.

Thank you, Scott Walker, YOU are my President.


17 posted on 06/06/2012 6:06:57 PM PDT by txhurl (AB would vote for Scott Walker.)
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To: Kaslin

If you aren’t doing what the people want, recalls work. If you are doing what they want, recalls backfire. Scott is doing what the people want and they know it.


18 posted on 06/06/2012 6:09:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Kaslin
Ask the girl with the pigtails what's next.
19 posted on 06/06/2012 6:10:25 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Venturer

The fool in Maryland knows exactly what Walker did and he wants no part of it. He is a committed socialist.


20 posted on 06/06/2012 6:12:11 PM PDT by rabidralph
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