[marktwain]

Knife wounds take a while to take effect. This is one of the reasons that knife attacks or defenses often result in multiple wounds.

[freeangel]

It would be REALLY just if a few thugs got together and kicked this judge and his family around or invaded his home.

[The Working Man]

This is Philadelphia, mind you, so Lowe was charged with various crimes — the Castle Doctrine law be damned — because he did not wait for the police to come and handle things. He then agreed to a non-jury trial before Lerner, and you can decide for yourself whether that was a good idea.

For one thing, the defense was not allowed to mention that Manning had 18 criminal convictions before he went after Lowe. Also, when Lowe was attacked, Manning was awaiting trial on charges he robbed a woman and knocked out her teeth.

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The whole goal here is to make the law abiding citizens the total prey for the Lawless and the State.

[varmintman]

Any sort of a trial like this one and you HAVE to insist on a jury trial unless there was some really compelling reason not to, anybody have any ideas, another racial thing or what the hell exactly???

[BuffaloJack]

.. You have the right to remain silent.
.. Anything you say or do can and will be held against you in a court of law.
.. You have the right to speak to an attorney.
.. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you.
.. Do you understand these rights as they have been read to you?
AND THE ONE THEY ALWAYS LEAVE OUT
.. Nothing you say may be used in your defense.

[LouD]

Manning and his sidekicks attacked Lowe and witnesses said Manning chased him and tried to clobber him with a metal pole before catching him and pinning him to the ground, where Lowe managed to retrieve a small pocket knife and used it to stick Manning, who, tragically, died.

I must be missing something, but I'm really failing to see the tragedy in this...

[GoldenPup]

Philadelphia judge's verdict abrogates the state Castle Doctrine law

Amish judge??

[Lockbox]

The judge is wrong...

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Every person has the right to self defense!

[rawcatslyentist]

IF no one is allowed to defend themselves, judges should be included. No more metal detectors or searching the people upon entering the CH. Everyone is disarmed? Right? No need, for any more precautions yer horror.

[Condor51]

Career Criminal THUG attacks old disabled person, dies in the process when disabled person defends himself, and it's the old disabled man's fault. In 'fact', it's 'Manslaughter'???... WTF?!? Guess the judge never heard of Self Defense, let alone the new law. Anyway, this is how it appears to me....

1. If you're "pinned to the ground" like Mr Lowe was, the Back of the 'pinner' Thug whose beating the hell out of you, is likely the only place you reach with a knife.

2. And since it's established that Me Lowe's knife was "small", repeated stabs don't prove 'malice'. It proves that it was a small friggen knife.

3. It also proves the first stab wound -- from the "Small Knife" -- had no effect on the thug. Or for that matter the second stab wound either.

4. And that left Mr Lowe no recourse from getting beaten to death, except to KEEP STABBING with his "small knife" until the threat from the THUG was over. As in D-E-A-D.

5. So where's 'the crime'? All I see is 'maybe' a fine for a concealed knife? And a Ticket for Littering. (/s)

No doubt Mr Lowe made a huge error in having a bench trial, whomever the judge was. You need a jury with a forensic team of your own, with body models of the attack positions, drawings, etc.

But the judge not allowing the Thugs 'Bad Acts' in goes too far. No doubt he thought it would be 'Prejudicial'. But excuse me, that's the whole point of an affirmative defense which it is in Self-Defense Case -- and getting those Bad Acts in and before the jury (or before the court) would be sop .

Mr Lowe *should* win on appeal but big deal. That takes years. Years he doesn't have given his medical condition.

ps: It seems as if Mr Lowe's lawyer wasn't too friggen 'sharp' (no pun).

[oldfart]

Was Manning wearing a “hoodie?”

[man_in_tx]

Complete and utter travesty — to say nothing of the egregious miscarriage of justice.

I do hope that some top attornies will run his appeal pro buono, if that is still a legal option open to him.

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On another note: This diabled vet should get a commendation for somehow — under extreme duress — reaching his pocket knife, OPENING it (how the hell he did that I will never know); and USING it with deadly effect.

When is the last time you EVER heard of someone being STABBED to death (not bled to death) with a POCKET KNIFE. The guy was a warrior and a hero, and — in Philly, at least, apparently — no good deed goes unpunished.

[montag813]

Can the PA Governor pardon Lowe? If so I will start a FB page to demand it.

[montag813]

Justice Benjamin Lerner is an SOB of the lowest order. He convicts a disabled vet for defending his life, but in March he let off the hook two people who threatened witnesses with death in a double-homicide trial. (Details: Witnesses Dissatisfied With Sentences For Women Who Threatened Them". This douchebag has no place on the bench.

[Fresh Wind]

...Lowe managed to retrieve a small pocket knife and used it to stick Manning, who, tragically, died.

The tragedy is that Lowe was arrested, tried, and convicted. Lowe did the world a favor when he killed Manning.

[maxwellsmart_agent]

Judge’s full name for when we vote?

[ridesthemiles]

The real lesson here is DON’T live in Philadelphia.

[Red in Blue PA]

If the “justice” system was on fire, I wouldn’t cross.the street to urinate on it.

[Red in Blue PA]

If the “justice” system was on fire, I wouldn’t cross.the street to urinate on it.

[Red in Blue PA]

If the “justice” system was on fire, I wouldn’t cross.the street to urinate on it.

[Red in Blue PA]

If the “justice” system was on fire, I wouldn’t cross.the street to urinate on it.