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To: trailhkr1
Yes, it is sexist..the woman naturally submissive? That's muzzie/15th century talk. The wife should never be submissive...should both be equals with equal decision making and give and take.

Bah, that's 20th century Marxist/feminist/alternate reality talk. The truth is that most women prefer to be submissive. The problem lies in that they only want to be submissive to a man who is worth being submissive to. No woman wants to be submissive to a weak man - she wants to be submissive to a strong man. So, for the man/woman marriage dynamic to work properly, the man must remain strong and dominant at all times (which is hard work) so that the woman will engage her naturally submissive tendencies and will be happy doing so. You want to see a miserable woman? Find one who has to wear the pants in her family.
22 posted on 06/01/2012 2:55:47 PM PDT by fr_freak
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Thanks, freak. You make more sense than a truckload of submissive RINO’s.


24 posted on 06/01/2012 3:00:24 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: fr_freak
Everybody’s panties are in a wad because of the use of the word “submissive”. Apparently from the thread so far no one have been married a long time. I got close to 30 years in. Was it always easy? No. Most of the time it was work but well worth it. We finish each others sentences etc.
In case you don't know the true secret is a woman who is smart enough to let her man “think” he controls things. Everyone who has been married and is truthful knows the woman controls you. The smart ones let you make a decision etc. and then they gently give you an alternate opinion. You sleep on it and low and behold “you” come up with HER option. It's your idea so it can't be wrong. IT is a standing joke in our house. Women rule but smart women let men think they run the ship. Conflict ensues when women aren't wise enough to give the guy his rope and gently drag him in later. Same with a horse.
28 posted on 06/01/2012 4:09:40 PM PDT by prof.h.mandingo (Buck v. Bell (1927) An idea whose time has come (for extreme liberalism))
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To: fr_freak
The truth is that most women prefer to be submissive. The problem lies in that they only want to be submissive to a man who is worth being submissive to.

Bingo !!!

31 posted on 06/01/2012 4:41:58 PM PDT by Popman (When you elect a clown: expect a circus...)
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To: fr_freak; trisham; fwdude; savagesusie; prof.h.mandingo
Bah, that's 20th century Marxist/feminist/alternate reality talk. The truth is that most women prefer to be submissive.

Do you have any real world stats to back that up or is that just a generational/religious thingie? Women do like at times for men make the decision on where to eat or what movie, to take control but major life decisions on a consistent basis? No way. I work with 15 women, 20'-50's, conservative, moderate and liberal and I can tell you if you told them the man should be dominant they would run away from you like the wind.

Do you really think good, strong conservative women like Sarah Palin are submissive??

My live in GF makes twice what I do, 6 figure income, graduate degree and I don't. We were best friends for long time before we became lovers (worked out every day together-both hardcore gym rats) ..I never felt/feel inferior on my part. I am not submissive or inferior to my gf we are both equals. If I was perceived as weaker my gf would dump me...she does not want to be dominant in the relationship and she has never treated me that way.

. No woman wants to be submissive to a weak man - she wants to be submissive to a strong man. So, for the man/woman marriage dynamic to work properly, the man must remain strong and dominant at all times (which is hard work) so that the woman will engage her naturally submissive tendencies and will be happy doing so.

Some women maybe-noticed it is a religious theme with some. There are some women who relish being submissive-don't want to make decisions just as some men are the same way. .Like some men, I'm not threatened or feel weak with a strong willed woman who know what she want. I would find it a turn off to have a submissive "yes hubbie"Duggar type woman but that's me. My GF and I both have the same decision making input. Sometimes she comes up with a better decision, sometimes I do but neither of us have the final say overruling the other on a consistent basis. Yes, I agree men and women are different in numerous ways but that should not make women inferior or have to be submissive in a relationship. This is no longer the '50's in that respect..Thank God.

You want to see a miserable woman? Find one who has to wear the pants in her family.

I was referring to both parties as equals, not to this example. There is a difference.

40 posted on 06/02/2012 6:53:03 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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