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Mexican official: Fast and Furious 'poisoned' public opinion of US
the Hill ^ | 31 May, 2012 | Jordy Yager

Posted on 06/01/2012 5:53:17 AM PDT by marktwain

The Mexican ambassador to the United States on Thursday said a botched gun-tracking operation by America “poisoned” public opinion of the United States for the citizens of its southern neighbor.

Ambassador Arturo Sarukhan told a room of reporters on Capitol Hill that the failed Operation Fast and Furious, which has been the focus of a Republican investigation in the House for more than a year, “put a lot of strain” on U.S.-Mexico relations.

“Fast and Furious has poisoned the well-spring of public opinion in Mexico as it relates to the cooperation and engagement with the United States,” Sarukhan said.

“It does put a lot of strain on the huge strides that we’ve achieved with two successive administrations in the United States,” he said.

Sarukhan was on the Hill at the invitation of Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) to promote tighter gun laws in the United States, including the reinstatement of the federal assault weapons ban, which expired in 2004.

Sarukhan argued that Mexico has seen an enormous surge in illegal assault weapons since the ban was allowed to expire and that more must be done in the United States to try and curb the number of guns flowing into Mexico.

Nearly 70 percent of all guns found in Mexico came from the United States since 2007, according to the latest data released by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) last month.

Gun-rights advocates say the numbers do not accurately reflect the true number of guns found in Mexico, which they argue is much higher. Instead, they say, the ATF's data reflect only the number of guns that were submitted for traces.

Some gun advocates in the United States have argued that Democrats try to use the inflated numbers to make their case for stricter gun laws.

But Sarukhan, Democrats, and proponents for tighter gun laws cite the statistics in making their case to instate firmer penalties against illegal gun traffickers and straw buyers.

“Beyond learning what happened in Fast and Furious, there’s a much larger task at hand, which is how do we prevent the volumes of guns coming across the border into Mexico ... and feeding into the violence,” said Sarukhan, referring to the nearly 50,000 people who have been killed in Mexico over the past five years since that nation declared a war on the drug cartels.

Fast and Furious was an attempt by the ATF to track the flow of weapons from the United States into Mexico by drug cartels in hopes of dismantling their network.

Nearly 2,000 guns were sold in the United States to straw buyers for the cartels, but instead of tracking the weapons, ATF agents were ordered to let them go with the hope of rediscovering them later at a crime scene or drug bust.

“We are extremely concerned about what happened with Fast and Furious,” Sarukhan said. “The Mexican government was never appraised of how the operation was being designed and implemented, therefore we also asked for a full-fledged investigation from the Justice Department, which we are awaiting.

“I hope to see that investigation concluded soon because hopefully that will provide some closer and a very clear sense of what happened and we hope also, if need be, the appropriate accountability of those involved,” Sarukhan said.

The Department of Justice's inspector general, at the request of Attorney General Eric Holder, has been investigating Fast and Furious for more than a year and searching for who is responsible for the controversial “gun walking” tactics.

Sarukhan said that the Mexican government is conducting its own investigation into what happened once the weapons crossed the border from the United States.

Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), the chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, has led Congress’s investigation into the operation and recently took steps to hold Holder in contempt of Congress for failing to turn over documents that the powerful lawmaker has subpoenaed.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; ice; murdergate; obama
In spite of the authors attempt to further the Obama administration's "botched operation" coverup theme, the comments on the article show that control of the information about Murdergate is escaping the MSM.
1 posted on 06/01/2012 5:53:34 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: MestaMachine

Gunwalker / Murdergate ping.


2 posted on 06/01/2012 5:54:55 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
The Mexican ambassador to the United States on Thursday said a botched gun-tracking operation by America “poisoned” public opinion of the United States for the citizens of its southern neighbor.

I'm sure we Americans won't be able to tell the difference.

Now that they hate us I wonder if they'll stop sneaking in.

3 posted on 06/01/2012 5:59:09 AM PDT by skeeter
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Fast and Furious was an attempt by the ATF to track the flow of weapons from the United States into Mexico by drug cartels in hopes of dismantling their network.

Somebody forgot the "barf alert"...

4 posted on 06/01/2012 6:15:26 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: marktwain
The Mexican ambassador to the United States on Thursday said a botched gun-tracking operation by America “poisoned” public opinion of the United States for the citizens of its southern neighbor.

They should boycott the U.S.A. - Teach us a lesson.

Shut the borders down.

Stop shipping drugs and illegal aliens to us.

Refuse to accept any more foreign aid.

That should bring U.S. to our knees.


5 posted on 06/01/2012 6:17:45 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If you want total security go to prison. The only thing lacking is freedom. D. D. Eisenhower)
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I really could shive a git about what the Mexicans’ “public opinion” is of US.


6 posted on 06/01/2012 6:41:59 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Free Stuff or Freedom! You Decide 2012.)
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To: marktwain
“Beyond learning what happened in Fast and Furious, there’s a much larger task at hand, which is how do we prevent the volumes of guns coming across the border into Mexico ... and feeding into the violence,” said Sarukhan

Hmm. I know this is hard, Mexico, but I'm thinking there is an easy way for you to prevent the "volumes of guns" going across YOUR BORDER into Mexico. But you can't do that can you as it would also prevent the flow of Mexican illegal aliens from coming the other way wouldn't it?

7 posted on 06/01/2012 6:53:31 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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Nearly 70 percent of all guns found in Mexico came from the United States since 2007, according to the latest data released by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) last month.

That is a lie!

8 posted on 06/01/2012 7:06:15 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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-—Obama boasted, “We can say with confidence and pride: The United States is ...more respected in the world.”-——May 28, 2012


9 posted on 06/01/2012 7:23:42 AM PDT by running_dog_lackey
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To: marktwain

Then why don’t they submit an extradition request to get Eric Holder to stand trial on several hundred counts of Negligent Homicide?


10 posted on 06/01/2012 7:32:13 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: marktwain

Dear Mexico,

If you’re really serious convene whatever you use for a Grand Jury and issue some indictments. Then demand extradition of one Eric Holder.

L


11 posted on 06/01/2012 7:36:33 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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12 posted on 06/01/2012 10:11:33 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: marktwain
Nearly 70 percent of all guns found in Mexico came from the United States since 2007, according to the latest data released by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) last month.

100% Bull Malarkey!

ATF Publishes Misleading Trace Data From Mexico Katie Pavlich; April 27,2012

Yesterday afternoon, the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms released firearms tracing data to the press from Mexico between the years 2007-2011 during a roundtable discussion and presentation given by ATF Special Agent John Hageman.

(snip)

The majority of the sales linked back to the U.S. according to this trace data, actually come from government to government sales, not from normal sales made in American gun shops.

(snip)

“ATF isn’t making a determination on how people view our data,” ATF Special Agent John Hageman said.

Or are they? ATF uses these numbers to justify its new long gun reporting measures. The new measures were implemented last summer and require border state gun dealers to report multiple sales of semi-automatic rifles.

Nothing has changed. The FedMob is still pushing the lie.

Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth - Stratfor Global Intelligence; Feb., 10, 2011

As we discussed in a previous analysis, the 90 percent number was derived from a June 2009 U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) report to Congress on U.S. efforts to combat arms trafficking to Mexico (see external link).

According to the GAO report, some 30,000 firearms were seized from criminals by Mexican authorities in 2008. Of these 30,000 firearms, information pertaining to 7,200 of them (24 percent) was submitted to the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) for tracing. Of these 7,200 guns, only about 4,000 could be traced by the ATF, and of these 4,000, some 3,480 (87 percent) were shown to have come from the United States.

This means that the 87 percent figure relates to the number of weapons submitted by the Mexican government to the ATF that could be successfully traced and not from the total number of weapons seized by Mexican authorities or even from the total number of weapons submitted to the ATF for tracing. In fact, the 3,480 guns positively traced to the United States equals less than 12 percent of the total arms seized in Mexico in 2008 and less than 48 percent of all those submitted by the Mexican government to the ATF for tracing. This means that almost 90 percent of the guns seized in Mexico in 2008 were not traced back to the United States.


13 posted on 06/01/2012 11:40:22 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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