Posted on 05/31/2012 4:03:51 PM PDT by wagglebee
I replied to BlazingArizona @ Post #7
If you were living by yourself in a cave with no living relatives, MAYBE you'd have a case.
Problem is, no man is an island. It is not only your own business if you choose to end your life. It does and will have an impact on those around you and those you leave behind to pick up the pieces of their lives.
I've noticed a tremendous inability for libertarians to think of others than themselves. They are some of the most immature, self-centered, self-absorbed people going. *It's all about me* is their motto. Everyone else be damned.
I don't worship a lot platitudes concocted by some bright fellows a couple hundred years ago. Some are really hilarious such as fixing the blame for slavery on Great Britain while that eminent theorist of liberty and slaveholder Thomas Jefferson penned the words.
I have never been able to consult the Almighty on whether he bestowed anything on humanity. It strikes me as odd that it took until the 18th century for mortals to suddenly discover this remarkable bequest. If rights there be we won them fair and square by beating our Sovereign monarch Geo II with the big time assistance of those friends of liberty the Bourbon monarchs of France and Spain.
Politics is nothing more than a fight over the distribution of power and wealth.
Making it some sanctified or sanctimonious operation is just sugar coating the turd beneath.
And conversely, my claim of ownership on my own life means that I cannot claim ownership of anyone else’s life. If you think I’m only talking about chattel slavery when I say this, read the rest of this thread.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men..." -- America's founders
Wow. What a comparison.
I'll stick with the founders, thanks.
You’re on an HOA board, aren’t you?
Spend some time at the next session of your state legislature. See which description seems more appropriate.
Men are not my plumb line.
“On the 2d of July, 1776, the old Continental Congress, to the dismay of the lovers of ease, and the worshippers of property, clothed that dreadful idea with all the authority of national sanction. They did so in the form of a resolution; and as we seldom hit upon resolutions, drawn up in our day, whose transparency is at all equal to this, it may refresh your minds and help my story if I read it.
Resolved, That these united colonies are, and of right, ought to be free and Independent States; that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown; and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain is, and ought to be, dissolved.
Citizens, your fathers Made good that resolution. They succeeded; and today you reap the fruits of their success. The freedom gained is yours; and you, therefore, may properly celebrate this anniversary. The 4th of July is the first great fact in your nation’s history-the very ring-bolt in the chain of your yet undeveloped destiny.
Pride and patriotism, not less than gratitude, prompt you to celebrate and to hold it in perpetual remembrance. I have said that the Declaration of Independence is the RINGBOLT to the chain of your nation’s destiny; so, indeed, I regard it. The principles contained in that instrument are saving principles. Stand by those principles, be true to them on all occasions, in. all places, against all foes, and at whatever cost.
From the round top of your ship of state, dark and threatening clouds may be seen. Heavy billows, like mountains in the distance, disclose to the leeward huge forms of flinty rocks! That bolt drawn, that chain, broken, and all is lost. Cling to this day-cling to it, and to its principles, with the grasp of a storm-tossed mariner to a spar at midnight.”
— Frederick Douglass, ‘What to the Slave is the Fourth of July?’ July 5, 1852
The assertion that our rights come from God, not from men, and that they are therefore unalienable, is the basis for our form of government, and for our claim to liberty.
Sam Adams and the Committees of Correspondence came to the exact same conclusions, thereby helping form the basis for our separation from Great Britain and the creation of this free republic.
Without this assertion of self-evident, plain-as-the-nose-on-your-face truth, just government, self-government, is not possible. All you’re left with is the ‘might makes right’ whims of men, in other words, the exact sort of tyranny that has crushed most of mankind under its boot heel throughout history.
I’m sorry you choose to remain ignorant of what America is.
“It is not only your own business if you choose to end your life. It does and will have an impact on those around you and those you leave behind to pick up the pieces of their lives.
I’ve noticed a tremendous inability for libertarians to think of others than themselves. They are some of the most immature, self-centered, self-absorbed people going. *It’s all about me* is their motto.
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All in one post you contradicted yourself. You clearly stated someone else’s life is about you, yet, you decry self-centered behaviors. Narcissists usually do that.
This is complete, unadulterated, utter BS. My life is my own. It belongs to no potentate, king, priest, government, or invisible man in the sky.
It is mine, and mine alone. As long as I do no direct harm to another person, unless in defense of my own life or property, no one has the right to tell me how to live or when or how to die.
The author of this piece is a weak minded fraud worthy only of ridicule by free human beings.
Period.
“no one has the right to euthanasia or assisted suicide”
I do and no one has any right to stop me!
So according to the idiot who wrote this drivel a Marine who throws how own body on a grenade, or charges a machine gun nest to save his comrades is committing a mortal sign because he didn’t die “naturally”.
Riiiiigggghhht.
Mind your own business, priest and leave grown ups alone to conduct their own affairs.
Again, I agree. We own, and are responsible for our own lives.
“Put on your own oxygen mask before assisting others.”
Wow. Just, WOW. Amazing stuff.
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