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To: sunmars

Every time I go to Rasmussen I get so depressed.
Obumbo always seems to hold his own and not much change since he was elected, when it should be a linear drop into the toilet.
I guess we should never underestimate the total stupidity of the American public.


6 posted on 05/31/2012 6:27:44 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: AlexW

I know what you mean. I stopped routinely going there months ago. Now, I just occasionally visit and only leave depressed. Hopefully, he is just down to the people who admit that they don’t like Obozo, and there are a lot of people who don’t but are telling the pollster they do.


11 posted on 05/31/2012 6:35:34 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: AlexW
Every time I go to Rasmussen I get so depressed.

Obama won Ohio 51 to 47% in 2008, so I don't see any reason to be depressed by this poll.

14 posted on 05/31/2012 6:36:14 AM PDT by Doofer (Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: AlexW

I guess 40% of America likes Obama and or are idiots or simply just go along (somewhat intelligent but still idiots none the less) or suffering from Stockholm syndrome due to a conbination post 9-11 and media brain washing the last decade or so.
Odumbo has given them plenty of reasons to abandon ship but that may not be enough.
Since there is no strong contrasting alternative, at least so far, then the 10%-15% that would consider a alternative have no where to go.
Again, without a compelling reason to do so.
The fact that Romney is as exciting as a plain oat meal or unripe banana doesn’t help matters.


16 posted on 05/31/2012 6:43:17 AM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: AlexW

Every time I go to Rasmussen I get so depressed.”

No, don’t be! I think the Rasmussen numbers today tell us that obama is eminently defeatable!

Yes, we have to contend with the reality that America elected him at all. And THAT is depressing, but at least 47% didn’t vote for him. All we have to do is snatch back that middle ground, and he’s gone.

And again, that is very doable.

I watch Rasmussen like a hawk, and I am very pleased that at THIS stage, still very early, that obama is running behind in all-important Ohio, that is very good. He can be beaten, and he will (hopefully!) be beaten.


17 posted on 05/31/2012 6:44:31 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: AlexW
The truth is... and even here on FR you can watch the attacks on me in this thread for saying so... but America is over. Eventually this system is going to crash. Not far off into someone else's future but within our lifetime. We cannot pay down the real debt that we owe... even if we had politicians willing to make hard and unpopular cuts... and the real debt is actually three times or more than the 15.1 Trillion that you see referenced. EU is going to crash soon... and so will wall street and the US Treasury. We have been lied to and scammed by BOTH parties for far too long and it is all beyond saving. We will all have to start over. THAT is where the hard part comes in.

LLS

21 posted on 05/31/2012 6:48:46 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: AlexW

Every time I go to Rasmussen I get so depressed.
Obumbo always seems to hold his own and not much change since he was elected, when it should be a linear drop into the toilet.
I guess we should never underestimate the total stupidity of the American public.

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Agree with your observation that Barry somehow holds his own when he should be at about 10%

Bright side is that Rasmussen is , compared to others, more accurate on what the real %’s are.

To me a win is a win even if it comes down to .5%.

Ridding the WH of Obozo and MoChelle will be a day for celebration.

Hopefully there will be some pickups in Congress to provide a real platform for a new president to straighten out the mess.


22 posted on 05/31/2012 6:55:03 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: AlexW
Every time I go to Rasmussen I get so depressed.
Obumbo always seems to hold his own and not much change since he was elected...”

I am not sure what polling charts you are looking at Rasmussen. Since Odumbo was elected..

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Seems to me like a massive change in fortunes for Odumbo in the polls since he was elected.

25 posted on 05/31/2012 7:01:03 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: AlexW

You shouldn’t.

The worst beating any democrat got in a POTUS election was George McGovern. McGovern got about 38% of the popular vote.

This means there is a baseline of 38% of voters who will ALWAYS vote democrat.

Jimmy Carter got 41% of the popular vote against Reagan and only won 49 electoral votes.

Getting 44% of the popular vote is DISMAL. Dukakis got 45.7% and only won 111 electoral votes. Dukakis is doing better than Obama.


27 posted on 05/31/2012 7:45:49 AM PDT by kidd
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To: AlexW

You shouldn’t.

The worst beating any democrat got in a POTUS election was George McGovern. McGovern got about 38% of the popular vote.

This means there is a baseline of 38% of voters who will ALWAYS vote democrat.

Jimmy Carter got 41% of the popular vote against Reagan and only won 49 electoral votes.

Getting 44% of the popular vote is DISMAL. Dukakis got 45.7% and only won 111 electoral votes. Dukakis is doing better than Obama.


28 posted on 05/31/2012 7:46:02 AM PDT by kidd
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To: AlexW

Depressed? These are outrageously...I use that word purposely and I’ll say it again...outrageously bad numbers for Obama at this point in the election. It is only down from here for him. He is at 44% in a state he has to have and in a state he got 51% in last time. And this is at a time when maybe 5% of the voters are even paying attention.

Most voters don’t even begin to pay attention until after Labor Day. Almost all voters have more important (to them) things to do than worry about a subject they hate anyway...politics.

That 44% is dropping toward true bottom for Obama, which in Ohio with its union workers and minority populations, is probably somewhere around 40%. Those undecideds out there will break for the challenger in 4 months time.

Obama looks to lose Ohio by a greater margin than he won it last time. No need to be depressed. Just don’t ever expect giant margins in politics, people vote self-interest...sometimes self-interest takes strange forms but it is self-interest anyway. If Obama loses by 15 points in Ohio - 58-42, which is possible with these numbers now - that is a massive, massive landslide. As one other poster posted before, he’s toast.


29 posted on 05/31/2012 8:09:13 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: AlexW

“Every time I go to Rasmussen I get so depressed.
Obumbo always seems to hold his own and not much change since he was elected, when it should be a linear drop into the toilet.
I guess we should never underestimate the total stupidity of the American public.”

I explained why there is “no drop”, in this post from another thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2889089/posts?page=61#61


34 posted on 05/31/2012 9:11:28 AM PDT by Road Glide
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To: AlexW

“Every time I go to Rasmussen I get so depressed.”

Don’t be. Take to heart what Dick Morris and Rudy Giuliani have both said — there are 10 states with heavy majority populations of pro-Obama voters (CAL, NY, ILL, etc.) which skew these polls. It takes poll respondents from the other 40 states of majority-Romney to just make this look like an even race. Electorally speaking, Obama is way behind, and this could be a Dukakis scenario.


35 posted on 05/31/2012 10:26:57 AM PDT by Nabber
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To: AlexW

I think others have done a good job of saying why you shouldn’t be depressed. Obama is well below 50% in a state he won last time with 51%. He’s down despite having the MSM being in the tank for him. He’s down despite being so ‘likable.’ He’s down despite visiting the state every other week it seems. He’s down to an opponent that just now officially became the nominee after a bruising primary. He’s down to an opponent the MSM has already tried to tear down with ridiculous, irrelevant side shows.

I’m not sure what history tells us about polling results for incumbent Presidents at this point in the process. I’ve read different things about how undecided voters tend to break.

I’m a pessimist, so I tend to look at the negative. Even so, I’m not depressed about the current polling. I think Romney has a great chance to win. I think he has a chance to turn a few blue states red.

Having said that, I do think that if we had a Republican president right now, his numbers would be significantly worse than Obama’s. If we had a white Democrat President I think his numbers would also be worse (though obviously not as bad as for a Republican). I base this on at least three things; (1) Overwhelming (even more than usual) pro-Obama bias from the MSM, (2) Overwhelming (even more than usual) support/worship from pop culture/entertainment outlets, and (3) whites who suffer from white guilt and can’t bring themselves to admit what a disaster Obama is, and how wrong they were to buy into his bs in the first place.

So for me it’s a mixed bag. I think with identical or similar circumstances a Republican or white Democrat would be doing much worse than Obama. But on the other hand despite all of the pro-Obama bias out there, his numbers still aren’t good. He is vulnerable. He is beatable. And I hope Romney can pull it off.


61 posted on 05/31/2012 7:16:37 PM PDT by Aetius
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