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Gun beats knife
Washington Times ^ | 29 May 2012 | Anneke Green

Posted on 05/29/2012 7:34:13 PM PDT by smokingfrog

Being a retired cop made all the difference for Kio Ebrahimzadeh when he and his date were threatened with a knife earlier this month. The majority of California residents would have been helpless in the face of the imminent assault. Mr. Ebrahimzadeh is one of the privileged few in the Golden State permitted to carry a concealed gun.

The night started out pleasantly enough. Mr. Ebrahimzadeh picked a relatively secluded spot on the patio of the 3rd Stop, a Los Angeles restaurant. Dinner had just arrived when he and his companion were approached by a stranger, Kevin Scott Park, who loudly demanded they give him their food. Mr. Ebrahimzadeh refused and politely told him to go away and leave them alone. Instead, Park stepped off to the side, grabbed a bag and began rummaging through it, which signaled danger to the former officer. “My firearm was concealed in a bag on the table,” he told The Washington Times. “I was unzipping the bag when the man pulled out a huge knife and said, ‘Give me your food now!’ ” Instead, he was given the business end of a Glock 40 as Mr. Ebrahimzadeh drew his weapon and said, “Retired police officer. Drop the knife. Step back.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; glock; selfdefense
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1 posted on 05/29/2012 7:34:24 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

Kevin, it just wasn’t your day, was it? The NERVE of the guy to resist a perfectly good knife attack with a gun! :)


2 posted on 05/29/2012 7:39:44 PM PDT by ChoobacKY
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To: smokingfrog

Last summer there was a defensive stabbing near me. It turned out that the guy defending himself with the knife was even legally armed at the time.

He said he didn’t want to escalate the situation.

If it were me I’d have gone all badass when interviewed by the paper and told them “I just wanted to know what it felt like to slide a knife into a man”.


3 posted on 05/29/2012 7:40:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: smokingfrog

Too bad 99% of Californians couldn’t do the same thing.

Hey, we ARE the 99%!!!


4 posted on 05/29/2012 7:40:57 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: smokingfrog

“Glock 40”? Never heard of that model ;o)

Oh he meant .40 caliber...


5 posted on 05/29/2012 7:44:29 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: smokingfrog
Mr. Ebrahimzadeh is one of the privileged few in the Golden State permitted to carry a concealed gun.

Not quite true. CA is a may-issue state and ccw's are handed out at the pleasure of county sheriffs or police chiefs. The county I'm in is near shall-issue. If you live in LA, Frisco or there blue meccas, you can pretty well forget getting a ccw.

6 posted on 05/29/2012 7:46:22 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: umgud

What county is that? A move might be in my future.


7 posted on 05/29/2012 7:48:39 PM PDT by reardensteel
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To: smokingfrog

Beyond 50 yards I would prefer a rifle, from 5 to 50 it would be a shotgun. From 1 to 5 yards a pistol or revolver.

From zero to a yard, maybe a pistol again but I probably would be more afraid of a guy holding a short battle axe.


8 posted on 05/29/2012 7:49:43 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: smokingfrog
until the SWAT team arrived to take him in.

Yep, that's what we need against knives. Drones, too.

9 posted on 05/29/2012 7:52:26 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Clint N. Suhks

My favorite is the Glock 27 with a Pierce grip extension.

IMHO one of the best carry weapons made.


10 posted on 05/29/2012 7:55:58 PM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the White House)
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To: smokingfrog

Only if every citizen could be able to do that in California, not just a select, privileged few. Wouldn’t it read a much better story if ten diners all stood up and aimed their Glocks at this knife-wielding nutjob?


11 posted on 05/29/2012 7:57:05 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: reardensteel

Kern County issues more permits than any other county (58 counties). Bakersfield City may also issue permits, but not as prolific as the county.


12 posted on 05/29/2012 7:59:22 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: yarddog

You don’t let them get in from 0 to 3 yards. Anything 20-25 feet or closer if you aren’t already drawn and on target they’ll probably be able to get to you. Not saying they’ll kill you but I’m saying they may be able to get a hit on you.


13 posted on 05/29/2012 7:59:27 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
“Glock 40”? Never heard of that model ;o)

You're just not professional enough!


14 posted on 05/29/2012 8:01:13 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Exactly.

It would have been a clean kill, justified shooting had Kevin not given it up.


15 posted on 05/29/2012 8:03:11 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: umgud
Kern County issues more permits than any other county

I've heard that San Francisco cops will still treat you like a criminal even if you have a valid California CCW permit. Any validity to this?

16 posted on 05/29/2012 8:09:27 PM PDT by GunsAndBibles (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: Secret Agent Man

If you know a person is a threat, then you do not let them approach you at all.

However being in crowded areas, you can’t help but have people get close to you that you do not know are threatening. Of course no one would carry around a two headed battle axe.

A sturdy walking cane just might beat a gun or knife at close quarters if you have learned to use it well. One heavy enough to break an arm or crack a skull.


17 posted on 05/29/2012 8:11:00 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Secret Agent Man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt7FDTpzGvo


18 posted on 05/29/2012 8:12:23 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: yarddog

Inside of 3 yards I’d almost (almost) prefer a longsword, or maybe a combat tomahawk and short-sword to a gun. At that range, even the gun has to be already out and ready. It’s too late.

This begs the value of learning some basic ringen techniques (hand to hand combat) unarmed against an armed opponent. At close quarters it is essential to have some idea how to take a knife or gun from somebody. If they have the advantage first, it’s the difference between surviving and dying.


19 posted on 05/29/2012 8:12:45 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Ramius

At short range the Spartans preferred a short stabbing spear as did the Zulu tribes. I know the Spartans were real killers but part of that was the support they got from their fellow soldiers.

The ancient Greeks said that man to man they were not that much better than other soldiers.

I remember reading in “All Quiet on the Western Front” that the German soldiers in fierce hand to hand combat preferred their sharpened spades to bayonets.


20 posted on 05/29/2012 8:19:37 PM PDT by yarddog
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