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To: WellyP; GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

“Obama, Jr. was NEVER a Kenyan citizen.”

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Not so fast on that statement....

If Obama Senior had to be leveraged to terminate Obama II’s Indonesian citizenship (yes - he WAS a legal Indonesian citizen at the time) then he may have become Kenyan then.

Stanley Ann was not leaving Indonesia or divorcing Lolo. Yet she was, in the eyes of the Indoensian law, an Indonesian citizen. Foreign wives became Indonesian citizen 1 year after marrying an Indonesian national. So with 2 parents who were Indonesian citizens Obama (II) himself HAD to be an Indonesian citizen. With anti-American sentiment rising they probably had to get him out of there.

So how do you get child out of a country and legally terminate his citizenship when both his parents are staying???

Use the legal birth father! Obama senior.

Indonesian law allowed for a foreign birth father to reclaim his child - this terminated Indonesian citizenship.

So this would explain the ‘grand reunion’ of 1971. Obama senior would be needed to terminate Obama II’s Indonesian citizenship cleanly and permanently while his step father and mother remained Indonesian citizens and in Indonesia.

If this did happen then Obama II would have been KENYAN in 1971 or January of 1972. He would have then had to NATURALIZE to become a US citizen again. And NATURALIZED citizens are not natural born citizens. And this may be the undeniable situation that keeps the Obama function from using the phrase ‘natural born Citizen’.

Obama II would then be indebted to his namesake father for saving him from the hostile environment of Indonesia. He would have not only carried his father’s name but also his citizenship at that point. And his ADOPTED home country from 1971 on would then be - Kenya!


178 posted on 05/28/2012 7:06:33 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: bluecat6
I agree with you that Barack Obama Sr. was somehow necessary to deal with citizenship/adoption issues. I disagree that any of this would have affected a child's American citizenship. It is my understanding that neither a minor, nor a minor's parents can separate a child from his American Citizenship.

Only an individual, having come to an age of maturity, can elect to relinquish his American citizenship. It cannot be done for him, and he cannot do it when he is underage.

During this time period, Obama was a triple citizen. Kenyan, Indonesian, and American, but only if he was actually born on American Soil. If he was born on foreign soil, his mother was too young to confer American citizenship upon him. In that case, (a circumstance which I strongly suspect is true) He is NOT an American citizen.) He is a Kenyan Indonesian. (And perhaps Canadian. :) )

265 posted on 05/29/2012 7:33:30 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: bluecat6

I don’t believe I said “Obama, Jr. was NEVER a Kenyan citizen.” Don’t forget, it’s entirely possible Malcolm X or Frank Davis (not Barack Sr.) is Barack’s real father. Barack Jr. looks nothing like Sr. IMO, it’s more likely X is bammy’s dad since bammy’s mom was a ‘bleepin’ bleep’.


273 posted on 05/29/2012 8:18:41 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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