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To: Hodar

“You are correct in that there are no trojans, or secret backdoors.”

Wrong!

Almost anything connected to a computer can execute a back door trojan. Even a USB plug can host an embedded firmware trojan.


41 posted on 05/22/2012 10:31:29 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Justa
Almost anything connected to a computer can execute a back door trojan. Even a USB plug can host an embedded firmware trojan.

Without going into details ... something as "New" as USB1.0 is typically just procured through a COTS channel. Just buy a F3I inspection on a new Motherboard - and you are off running again. Just order a new motherboard from Asus, Dell, Foxconn, Intel or whereever. These have very reliable supply chains - practically no threat. And even *if* there were, the secure networks are physically and virtually seperated from non-secure networks.

The Chicom fakes are things like resistors, capacitors, obsolete UV-erasable PROMS, 8 bit microprocessors, logic gates. If they are as "new" as 20 yrs ago, the odds are that they can and will be procured from a reliable supplier.

The Military only goes through the aftermarket on components that are 'obsolete'. You are not at risk for a "trojan" from a capacitor, resistor or a choke. For starters, there is no way to know 'where' that device is going to be located, what OS the device will run, if that device is even digital - we have quite a bit of analog in these old systems.

Did you know that the Chicoms also make fake toothpaste as well? Anything that can be made and sold at a profit is a target for counterfeiting. Watches, cell phones, iPods, iPads, jeans, perfume, brake pads, car batteries, computer components, monitors, jelly beans - the list is endless.

59 posted on 05/22/2012 11:28:47 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Justa

“Even a USB plug can host an embedded firmware trojan”

Easily done, I made up a gag USB cable once. I put a sm ATtiny85 inside the molded connector. I drilled it out and very carefully put the sm chip and two 3.6v zeners in there along with a few other tiny sm parts. Then I filled the hole using JB weld and spray painted the molded housing to make it look normal again.
When you plugged the thing in it was detected as a keyboard.
It would type odd things at random times :-) lol

Would be child’s play to create something similar that was sinister.


76 posted on 05/22/2012 12:01:41 PM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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