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1 posted on 05/21/2012 4:49:40 PM PDT by tobyhill
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It’s good, it’s bad, it’s good, it’s bad, it’s good, it’s bad, it’s good, it’s bad...

Coffee will kill you. Coffee will stave off Alzheimer’s. Fat will kill you. Fat is good for you. Eggs will raise your cholesterol. Eggs will keep LDL cholesterol low.

How can anyone in the US, let alone the world, believe anything coming out of health care circles if studies are back and forth twice a year?

I did read recently, however, that taking a wait-and-see approach on prostate “positives” is the best course of action. Treatment up to and including removal of the prostate oftentimes leave men impotent and miserable for the rest of their lives due to sexual dysfunction.


2 posted on 05/21/2012 4:53:09 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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Danged if you do, danged if you don’t.


3 posted on 05/21/2012 4:53:29 PM PDT by ocr1 (Sowell FTW)
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“We have been taught for years to fear cancer and that only hope is early detection and treatment,” Lefevre said. “And so for both doctors and patients alike, it’s difficult to accept that some cancers don’t need to be discovered and don’t need to be treated.”

WTF? Is he saying ‘Don’t fear the REaper?’ Cause prostate cancer has taken two people close to us.


4 posted on 05/21/2012 4:54:57 PM PDT by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: tobyhill
Obamacare lo$$ prevention.

Your prostate and cancer screening funds are needed for more important programs, like Green Energy seed money to be laundered into campaign contributions.

5 posted on 05/21/2012 4:55:30 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: tobyhill

Proactive death panels............


7 posted on 05/21/2012 4:56:53 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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There’s a more accurate test that’s better anyway.


12 posted on 05/21/2012 5:03:08 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: tobyhill

Just schilling for Obamacare.....

Die old men....


13 posted on 05/21/2012 5:03:08 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live athrough it anyway)
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I’m scheduled for a colonoscopy on Thursday. Will someone please convince me to cancel it? It is my first, I’m over 60 and healthy as a horse. Am I wasting my time?


19 posted on 05/21/2012 5:07:06 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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My PSA test went up quite quickly and a Biopsy revalues cancer. I got the cure. I guess liberals are so good that they do not get cancer and no medical treatment is needed.
20 posted on 05/21/2012 5:09:29 PM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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I hope people commenting here know that PSA tests have virtually nothing to do with prostate cancer. Dr Thomas Stamey was the doctor who did the research that was used to popularize the idea of doing regular PSA tests. 20 years later and after following the history of a lot of patients, he declared that the PSA test was useless and a waste of time.... http://www.naturalnews.com/002650.html .

Also, some time ago there was another study discussed here on FR... this was one where they biopsied the cadavers of young men (still teens?) and they found that a very significant percentage were found to have cancerous cells in their prostates (I seem to remember a number like 15 or 20). Having been down this road of being told that by the doctor that my PSA numbers had all of a sudden gone sky high, the approach of watchfulness has a lot of merit. As my doctor tells me, “you’ll have prostate cancer when you die... it just won’t be what kills you”.

And just today, Dr Oz made a very similar statement about mammograms when he was commenting on a recent study.... “Now, a new study from the Harvard School of Public Health adds fuel to the debate by stating that routine mammograms may lead to significant overdiagnosis of breast cancer, causing undue anxiety, additional costly testing, and unnecessary breast cancer treatment.” .....http://www.realage.com/womens-health/are-mammograms-overrated-for-detecting-breast-cancer?eid=1010657344&memberid=29975582

28 posted on 05/21/2012 5:20:32 PM PDT by hecticskeptic
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A big problem of high PSAs when no cancer is present - is that it often leads to a biopsy, where they do about 30 pokings into the prostate for samples, leaving your prostate a bloody mess of holes. It will heal, but there are ramifications of that where the healing process takes time, an in the meantime you are uncomfortable, and experience unsettling bleeds.


35 posted on 05/21/2012 6:15:27 PM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: tobyhill
Typo. The actual headline:

TSA tests for prostate cancer not good for health


37 posted on 05/21/2012 6:19:01 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The best diplomat I know is a fully-activated phaser bank. - Montgomery Scott)
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” The study showed more than 1,000 need to be screened to detect 37 cancers and prevent a single prostate cancer death. “

Sounds like good odds in favor of screening to me.

Welcome to the Doublespeak of Obamacare.


43 posted on 05/21/2012 7:17:54 PM PDT by Humble Servant
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PSA tests tracked a gradual increase in PSA until my Primary Care physician insisted I see a urologist for a biopsy which detected Stage II A cancer. It was removed via a robotic procedure. That was 7 years ago. Post procedure biopsy revealed a very small amount of aggressive cancer that confirmed that it was a good choice to remove the gland. I am alive today, and living life to the fullest, due to the PSA.


46 posted on 05/21/2012 7:45:41 PM PDT by bogeybob
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PSA tests tracked a gradual increase in PSA until my Primary Care physician insisted I see a urologist for a biopsy which detected Stage II A cancer. It was removed via a robotic procedure. That was 7 years ago. Post procedure biopsy revealed a very small amount of aggressive cancer that confirmed that it was a good choice to remove the gland. I am alive today, and living life to the fullest, due to the PSA.


47 posted on 05/21/2012 7:46:00 PM PDT by bogeybob
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I get a free test, given to all participants that want it, at the “Cruise for the Cure” car show at the Orange County Fair Grounds, CA every year.


51 posted on 05/21/2012 9:15:23 PM PDT by dalereed
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As a survivor of this type of cancer and the subsequent surgery, my opinion is that this is tied in directly to the new socialized healthcare system. Thousands of men will die simply from not following up on an elevated PSA count. This seems to be what the government wants. Some cancers are more virulent than others and are fast moving, others move more slowly. Diagnosis and treatment of encapsulated prostate cancer is the key to long term survival and getting cured. It is a silent, progressive, killer. The oldtimers in my area used to refer to it as the widow maker, because, those men who never got themselves examined, didn’t find out they had the disease until it was too late, and payed the ultimate price. This information is crazy.


65 posted on 05/22/2012 1:24:25 PM PDT by MountainYankee
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To: tobyhill

As a survivor of this type of cancer and the subsequent surgery, my opinion is that this is tied in directly to the new socialized healthcare system. Thousands of men will die simply from not following up on an elevated PSA count. This seems to be what the government wants. Some cancers are more virulent than others and are fast moving, others move more slowly. Diagnosis and treatment of encapsulated prostate cancer is the key to long term survival and getting cured. It is a silent, progressive, killer. The oldtimers in my area used to refer to it as the widow maker, because, those men who never got themselves examined, didn’t find out they had the disease until it was too late, and payed the ultimate price. This information is crazy.


66 posted on 05/22/2012 1:27:23 PM PDT by MountainYankee
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Really? Thanks for sharing the info.
Well, all along I was thinking of, it’s only for early detection and no other any complications.


71 posted on 10/16/2012 1:02:14 AM PDT by xyzaG
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