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To: ngat; fieldmarshaldj; Windflier; Dr. Sivana; RitaOK; Mountain Mary; Tennessee Nana; Tax-chick
Actually, I hope people read what I post too, and what you post. Conservatism is a far richer tapestry than money-grubbing and government advantage seeking, and buying primaries (whether Romney or Dewhurst). This year I have watched two candidates OTHER than Dewhurst display absolutely NO conservative principles, NO conservative street credibility and nothing but GOP-E suck up backed by mountains of money. The first, of course, is Romney, who carpet-bombed the airwaves with lies, slanders, libels against whomever was the leading conservative and actual Republican opponent of the week. He did this while absolutely refusing to put forth ANY comprehensible policy for how Plastic Man would improve the nation as GOP nominee or victor, just lies about his opponents, endlessly repeated, hour after hour.

The second was my soon to be new Congressman (IL-16), Adam Kinzinger, who was elected by Tea Party enthusiasts in 2010 and promptly showed up in DC with his leadership kneepads, asking what he could do to sell out his constituents. The Demonrats were angry over Kinzinger taking out their Debbie Halvorsen in 2010 that they laid waste to his competitive district and turned it into a Chicagoland Demonrat district again.

Kinzinger got Eric Cantor and the "Young Guns PAC" (the same "young guns" who were pumping gobs of money into 80 year-old "young gun" Senator Richard Lugar's vain attempt at renomination) to pull about $600K of largely Texas construction contractor money into a primary against my Congressman Don Manzullo and to use Romney's despicable tactics. After all, why should Kinzinger be a whore if he doesn't get paid like one by the DC "GOP" Congressional Madames? Manzullo gave this district and the USA 20 years of excellent and quite conservative representation. He and we got surprised by the sudden vehemence of $600,000 worth of media lies by the usual elitist suspects. Manzullo's crime (to Cantor, Boehner, McCarthy) was an open letter to Boehner asking for a House resolution to cut off any attempts to further increase Obozo's election year allowance by raising the debt "ceiling" yet again. Kinzinger should make no long-term plans to reside in DC.

Well, we certainly cannot cut off Obozo's allowance since that might hurt the armies of special interest slime seeking to farm the taxpayers' great-grandchildren while kicking back about 3 cents on the dollar taken by graft. If being pissed off at the abuse of money by unprincipled whores posing as "Republicans" in this election year makes me a "Progressive" so be it. In that event, you would not know "Progressive" if it jumped up and bit you.

I am unquestionably bitter about the outright PURCHASE of the election process and of nominations by rich absolutely corrupt unprincipled political whores who feel somehow entitled to make the purchases of our public offices. They belong in prison not in office. I'd say a chain gang and not a country club. Twenty years of callous building.

Real conservatives do not fear the electorate voting for their Senators. Let your elitist stooge Dewhurst make THAT a campaign issue (taking the Senate vote away from the people) ASAP if its such a bright idea and it will be all over but his political wake. The general thrust of your nonsense is that our nation should be run by those who OWN it without interference from the peasants. Sorry, God loves the peasants and that's why He makes so many more of them than he makes zillionaires, spoiled and corrupt or otherwise.

Since you question my conservatism, I have served as a Libertarian Party State Officer before growing up in response to their cheerleading abortion, a Republican Town Chairman of a town of 50,000, a GOP Congressional nominee, state chairman of Young Americans for Freedom, Young Republicans, College Republicans, a pro bono attorney for NRA members and 1100 arrested pro-lifers (about 10 of whom were convicted at trial and another 2 or 3 by plea to save the trouble of going to court), a State Chairman for Reagan when Reagan bucked Gerald Brainless Ford, another useless GOP-E stooge. BTW, Ford was so poor he could not afford his birth name of Leslie King but he was a GOP-Establishment anus nonetheless. More available on request. AND, I never tried to take the franchise away from the voters. How about you, smart guy, what are your credentials, if any exist other than pimping Dewhurst the RINO which is hardly a conservative credential???

"Long polemics???" I have plenty worthwhile to write about which is more than you can say from the record so far. And don't flatter your pathetic political love objects by imagining that I envy them. What I have I have earned the old fashioned way---honestly not by buying political influence to rape, loot and pillage the modest taxpayers.

Your buddies have been practicing what we have every right to call "class warfare" for at least 40 years to the great detriment of American folks of ordinary means in this country. They have sent the jobs of ordinary folks to Third World hellholes to employ children at slave "wages" with no perks, cutting the economic throats of American working folks and they have broken up the businesses employing those Americans to sell off the means of production to show there is no going back. This is a joint venture of the Demonratic Left moneybags and the "GOP" elitist moneybags. They have farmed the modest folks to avoid taxes on elite income streams. They have built up a national debt with wild abandon while buying tax deals. They, of course, expect the wars to be fought at modest wages by the modest folks and not by Percival Pecksniff XXIII who cannot very well be actually expected to get HIS hands dirty fighting, well, wars as though he were a mere commoner. Then, if there are any complaints by the modest folks over the destruction of their country and their way of life, THAT is termed by the hypocritical moneyed sleazebags as "CLASS WARFARE."

There has previously been a sort of social contract in which the modest folks fight the wars, buy the products necessary to daily life, have stable jobs and rising incomes in good behavior, providing better lives to their kids than they enjoyed. The big shots upstairs had an obligation to fair dealing with their employees and to treat them reasonably. Get a copy of Leo XIII's Encyclical Rerum Novarum about 50 pages that explain how the world might ideally work. Also check out Pius XI's Quadrigesimo Anno (on the 25th anniversary of Rerum Novarum), John Paul II's Centissimo Anno (on the 100th anniversary of Rerum Novarum). You may recall that all three of those authors were heroic resisters of Marxism and thereby, allied to American thought. Each was a more profound conservative than you will ever imagine yourself to be. Try and win elections without the Catholic vote for conservatives. Reagan got them easily The elitist dimwits? Not so much.

How many Dewhurst enthusiasts here on FR??? 2? 3? Maybe 5? Hope he does no better on primary day. I don't see any groundswells for depriving people of their RIGHT to vote in US Senate elections, do you? Just try it and see what happens.

BTW, your state of Texas once had a Democrat who spent virtually no money on a primary with Lyndon Johnson and it was claimed that he lost to Landslide Lyndon in 1948, but sensible people are skeptical. His name was Coke Stevenson, former Speaker of the Texas House and former governor. Robert Caro, in his multi-volume biography of Lyndon Johnson (I believe it was in the volume titled Means of Ascent) did a superb job of describing the campaign of the noble Coke Stevenson. If Texas can do no better than elitist trash like Cornyn, Dewhurst and Hutchison, how sad for Texas!

Ted Cruz for US Senate. If he wins, Texas and America win. If he loses, so do Texas and America.

I do plenty of posting here on FR and what I have posted to you against your pathetic candidate will come as no surprise to any regular here. Contrary to leftist propaganda, being conservative does not automatically mean having one's lips on autosmooch for the naked butts of the rich and airheaded. That's just the image that the quite rich and greedy Nancy Pelosi, and Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer and Richard Comrade Blumenthal and John the Yacht Tax Dodger Kerry and the general run of leftwing Demonrat zillionaires like to push. You apparently want to live up to their fantasies of who conservatives are.

There is a you and there is an I but it is quite unlikely that you and I will EVER be a we.

Oh, and finally, in these United States of America, it is the people who will check the central government as necessary not the idiot green-eye shade and sleeve garter crowd in the bank vault on Main Street or or Wall Street for that matter.

152 posted on 05/22/2012 9:59:37 PM PDT by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey! Tom Hoefling for POTUS! Viva Cristo Rey)
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To: BlackElk

Posting back and forth like this becomes a process of getting to know how the conservative tapestry is woven, and I’m finding it appears to have quite a variety of shapes and pictures on it.

I will not be able to answer your posts with the detail really needed to counter your fifteen-paragraph posts, simply because I have to go to work soon, but I do still have interest in your perspective and will give you mine, although with conciseness.

You are familiar with the political scene in your locality, and I’m familiar with mine, and I can tell you it is a fact Cruz is “carpet-bombing” Dewhurst with negative and misleading ads and has more big-money interests from out of state backing him than Dewhurst.

I spend time countering the illusions of tea-party enthusiasts backing Cruz instead of a real conservative, Dewhurst, to try to prevent exactly what you complain about happened with your own Manzullo/Kinzinger situation. I get exactly nothing out of it, except the abuse from people who have their minds already made up based on their feelings about people who are successful.

I won’t spend much time on the seventeenth amendment and the deleterious effect it has had on this nation and its people, because there is plenty of conservative writing by those that opposed the amendment and made correct predictions of what would happen if it passed. Conservatives who have observed the damage that was wrought since its passage had written plenty on the subject. Progressives, such as your esteemed William Jennings Bryan, in the never-ending quest for stronger and stronger central government so they can impose their social and economic schemes on the people, were plain that was what they were after. I just find it interesting your obvious fondness for a central government strong enough to overpower the only organizations that could possibly ever check the power of the federal government, namely state governments. and you do not seem at all concerned that the the states continue to be weakened by every possible strategm devised by the progressives, yet you still think of yourself as a conservative.

I most certainly do recognize a Progressive when I see one.

Why you would think anyone thinks there is a political possibility of reversing the seventeeth amendment, I do not know. There is more of a chance of abolition of the electoral college and presidents being selected by popular vote, which if you are consistent in your thinking you must support. As your posts aptly illustrate, the historical trend in thic country is obviously away from representative government and toward mob rule.

Wish I had time to address more of the issues you raised, but I need to go now and produce some more of those evil products that people willingly purchase from me to eat and stay warm when it is too cold and cool when it is too warm.

Perhaps this work also will enable me to pay my taxes so that the government lawyers and the rest of the talking profession can live well and tell us peasants how we should live. Then, if I ever get real successsful at my business, I’ll accumulate enough money to join the GOP-e and tell the Lawyers what they can do!


154 posted on 05/23/2012 7:57:08 AM PDT by ngat
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To: BlackElk; ngat

“You are familiar with the political scene in your locality, and I’m familiar with mine, and I can tell you it is a fact Cruz is “carpet-bombing” Dewhurst with negative and misleading ads and has more big-money interests from out of state backing him than Dewhurst.”

I have heard nothing but good things about Cruz..and he is endorsed by both Sarah Palin and Mark Levin.
If I were in Texas, this conservative Tea Partier would vote for him for sure.


157 posted on 05/23/2012 9:32:11 AM PDT by Mountain Mary (One Nation Under God..."There I said it" ... Great One...)
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