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To: BlackElk

Posting back and forth like this becomes a process of getting to know how the conservative tapestry is woven, and I’m finding it appears to have quite a variety of shapes and pictures on it.

I will not be able to answer your posts with the detail really needed to counter your fifteen-paragraph posts, simply because I have to go to work soon, but I do still have interest in your perspective and will give you mine, although with conciseness.

You are familiar with the political scene in your locality, and I’m familiar with mine, and I can tell you it is a fact Cruz is “carpet-bombing” Dewhurst with negative and misleading ads and has more big-money interests from out of state backing him than Dewhurst.

I spend time countering the illusions of tea-party enthusiasts backing Cruz instead of a real conservative, Dewhurst, to try to prevent exactly what you complain about happened with your own Manzullo/Kinzinger situation. I get exactly nothing out of it, except the abuse from people who have their minds already made up based on their feelings about people who are successful.

I won’t spend much time on the seventeenth amendment and the deleterious effect it has had on this nation and its people, because there is plenty of conservative writing by those that opposed the amendment and made correct predictions of what would happen if it passed. Conservatives who have observed the damage that was wrought since its passage had written plenty on the subject. Progressives, such as your esteemed William Jennings Bryan, in the never-ending quest for stronger and stronger central government so they can impose their social and economic schemes on the people, were plain that was what they were after. I just find it interesting your obvious fondness for a central government strong enough to overpower the only organizations that could possibly ever check the power of the federal government, namely state governments. and you do not seem at all concerned that the the states continue to be weakened by every possible strategm devised by the progressives, yet you still think of yourself as a conservative.

I most certainly do recognize a Progressive when I see one.

Why you would think anyone thinks there is a political possibility of reversing the seventeeth amendment, I do not know. There is more of a chance of abolition of the electoral college and presidents being selected by popular vote, which if you are consistent in your thinking you must support. As your posts aptly illustrate, the historical trend in thic country is obviously away from representative government and toward mob rule.

Wish I had time to address more of the issues you raised, but I need to go now and produce some more of those evil products that people willingly purchase from me to eat and stay warm when it is too cold and cool when it is too warm.

Perhaps this work also will enable me to pay my taxes so that the government lawyers and the rest of the talking profession can live well and tell us peasants how we should live. Then, if I ever get real successsful at my business, I’ll accumulate enough money to join the GOP-e and tell the Lawyers what they can do!


154 posted on 05/23/2012 7:57:08 AM PDT by ngat
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To: ngat; fieldmarshaldj; Windflier; Dr. Sivana; RitaOK; Mountain Mary; Tennessee Nana; Tax-chick

I saw BlackElk pinged you all with this discussion of the controversy on who is the conservative in a certain Texas Senate race, which morphed into a discussion about the desirablity and effects of the election of Senators by popular vote instead of by the States’ elected legislatures.

Posting back and forth like this with BlackElk becomes a process of getting to know how the conservative tapestry is woven, and I’m finding it appears to have quite a variety of shapes and pictures on it.

I will not be able to answer BlackElks posts with the detail really needed to counter his fifteen-paragraph posts, simply because I have to go to work soon, but I do still have interest in his perspective and will give mine, although with conciseness. Here is all I had time to post back to BlackElk.

“You are familiar with the political scene in your locality, and I’m familiar with mine, and I can tell you it is a fact Cruz is “carpet-bombing” Dewhurst with negative and misleading ads and has more big-money interests from out of state backing him than Dewhurst.

I spend time countering the illusions of tea-party enthusiasts who are backing Cruz instead of backing a real conservative, Dewhurst, to try to prevent exactly what you complain about happened with your own Manzullo/Kinzinger situation. I get exactly nothing out of it, except the abuse from people who have their minds already made up based on their feelings about people who are successful.

I won’t spend much time on the seventeenth amendment and the deleterious effect it has had on this nation and its people, because there is plenty of conservative writing by those that opposed the amendment and made correct predictions of what would happen if it passed. Conservatives who have observed the damage that was wrought since its passage had written plenty on the subject. Progressives, such as your esteemed William Jennings Bryan, in the never-ending quest for stronger and stronger central government so they can impose their social and economic schemes on the people, were plain that was what they were after. I just find it interesting your obvious fondness for a central government strong enough to overpower the only organizations that could possibly ever check the power of the federal government, namely state governments. and you do not seem at all concerned that the the states continue to be weakened by every possible strategm devised by the progressives, yet you still think of yourself as a conservative.

I most certainly do recognize a Progressive when I see one.

Why you would think anyone thinks there is a political possibility of reversing the seventeeth amendment, I do not know. There is more of a chance of abolition of the electoral college and presidents being selected by popular vote, which if you are consistent in your thinking you must support. As your posts aptly illustrate, the historical trend in thic country is obviously away from representative government and toward mob rule.

Wish I had time to address more of the issues you raised, but I need to go now and produce some more of those evil products that people willingly purchase from me to eat and stay warm when it is too cold and cool when it is too warm.

Perhaps this work also will enable me to pay my taxes so that the government lawyers and the rest of the talking profession can live well and tell us peasants how we should live. Then, if I ever get real successsful at my business, I’ll accumulate enough money to join the GOP-e and tell the Lawyers what they can do!”


155 posted on 05/23/2012 8:08:18 AM PDT by ngat
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