I see that the AP is now reporting that Hawaii is telling Arizona that they need to prove that they require Obama’s credentials.
Updated: May 19, 2012 3:33 AM CDT
OBAMA-ARIZONA BALLOT
Hawaii to Ariz.: Prove need to verify Obama birth
PHOENIX (AP) - The attorney general’s office in Hawaii is telling Arizona’s secretary of state that if he wants confirmation of President Barack Obama’s birth records, he’ll have to prove he legitimately needs it.
Special Assistant Joshua Wisch said late Friday that Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett hasn’t done that despite numerous email and phone exchanges between their offices.
Wisch says Hawaii state laws require Bennett to show legal authority that this office needs the records to update its official lists as part of its ordinary work.
Wisch says as soon as Bennett gives Hawaii adequate authority, the Aloha State will verify Obama’s birth.
Bennett said in a radio interview this week that Obama’s status on Arizona’s ballot is in question unless Hawaii verifies his birthplace.
Hawaii officials have confirmed multiple times that Obama was born there.
Once again Hawaii is totally ignoring/misinterpreting their own laws, as Ken Bennett knows full well. This is what HRS 338-18 says about a letter of verification (found at http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0018.htm ):
“(g) The department shall not issue a verification in lieu of a certified copy of any such record, or any part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant requesting a verification is:
(1) A person who has a direct and tangible interest in the record but requests a verification in lieu of a certified copy;
(2) A governmental agency or organization who for a legitimate government purpose maintains and needs to update official lists of persons in the ordinary course of the agency’s or organization’s activities;
(3) A governmental, private, social, or educational agency or organization who seeks confirmation of a certified copy of any such record submitted in support of or information provided about a vital event relating to any such record and contained in an official application made in the ordinary course of the agency’s or organization’s activities by an individual seeking employment with, entrance to, or the services or products of the agency or organization;
(4) A private or government attorney who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record which was acquired during the course of or for purposes of legal proceedings; or
(5) An individual employed, endorsed, or sponsored by a governmental, private, social, or educational agency or organization who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record in preparation of reports or publications by the agency or organization for research or educational purposes. [L 1949, c 327, §22; RL 1955, §57-21; am L Sp 1959 2d, c 1, §19; am L 1967, c 30, §2; HRS §338-18; am L 1977, c 118, §1; am L 1991, c 190, §1; am L 1997, c 305, §5; am L 2001, c 246, §2]”
The HDOH is pretending that Bennett is asking for this under (2) above, but he is clearly asking for it under (3). It is the normal course of operations for the SOS’s office to receive an application for placement on the ballot, and AZ’s application process requires that the candidate be a “natural born US citizen”. Obama has applied to be on the ballot, and Bennett is seeking confirmation of “information provided about a vital event relating to any such record and contained in an official application”. Obama’s AZ application claims he is eligible to be President and that is related to what is actually contained on Obama’s birth record.
The HDOH is trying to stall again. I’ve been through this rat-race with them dozens of times. Unfortunately for them, Bennett has set the default at DENIAL of placement on the ballot. IOW, if the HDOH stalls they’re only making it certain that Obama will not be allowed on the ballot.
I can’t wait for the HDOH to declare Bennett a “vexatious requestor” who they thus don’t have to answer. lol. With any luck, the HDOH will thoroughly piss him off, just by being the jerks we all already know them to be. lol
Actually, Hawaii has never officially verified that Obama was born there. When pressed for the records that supported former-HDOH Director Fukino’s July 2009 statement that she had seen the “vital recordS verifying that Obama was born in Hawaii”, Deputy AG Jill Nagamine responded that it was known that Obama was born in HI because his name is in the birth index. IOW, Nagamine is claiming that Fukino’s statement came from looking at the birth index.
But I have documented on my blog that the 1960-64 birth index that the HDOH shows the public has been altered to include legally non-valid records.
And the DATABASE is also known to have been altered by the HDOH because even though Virginia Sunahara’s name is listed in the birth index and her COLB has been disclosed to her brother, when I asked an HDOH employee for a non-certified copy of Virginia’s abbreviated BC, she queried the database and found no birth record for Virginia Sunahara. We know she had a birth record because it was later disclosed, but at that point in time, that birth record (with that BC#) was not under Virginia’s name. It was under somebody else’s name.
Normally requests associated with Obama were sent to Janice Okubo and she always gave the standard (BS) answer that I was not authorized to receive a non-certified COLB, death certificate, or whatever I was asking for. That’s why it surprised me when I got the response saying that there were no records responsive to my request for Virginia’s non-certified COLB.
Later on, I called the HDOH office to find out what had happened to my money order and request for the 1961 birth index the HDOH had told me I could get for $98.75. The secretary couldn’t find any record of my request even though I had received an e-mail in response to it already. All of a sudden she asked me if the request had to do with Obama. I asked if that would make any difference. She said yeah, that all requests about Obama were supposed to go to Janice Okubo. Everything else goes to the “fulfillment department” to be processed according to standard protocols.
So what happened is this: All my other requests for non-certified abbreviated vital records were clearly related to Obama (SAD, Madelyn Dunham, Obama, etc) so they went to Okubo who gave me the BS denial.
Okubo was afraid to tell the lower-level staffers that Virginia Sunahara is actually Obama, so when my request for VS’s record came in it went to the fulfillment office instead of being routed to Janice Okubo to be obfuscated. So this is the only request related to Obama that went to somebody besides Janice Okubo. If it had been sent to Okubo she would have said I was not authorized to receive what I had requested, like she did with all the other requests. The fact that I got a different response confirms that this request never went to Janice Okubo like the others.
According to the OIP the first step in the normal protocols is always to check to see whether the record even exists. So that’s what the secretary did; she checked the birth database for Virginia Sunahara. I had asked for the record for either Virginia Sunahara or Tomiyo Sunahara so she would have queried the name of Sunahara for both of those records. That’s double-checking. And she found nothing there. So she sent me a response saying there wasn’t a record responsive to my request.
IOW, the HDOH changed Virginia Sunahara’s record in the birth database to somebody else’s name. And they got caught because they didn’t tell their lowly secretary that any request regarding Virginia Sunahara was actually about Obama, so she processed the request honestly instead of sending it to Okubo to have her lie and obfuscate.