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Elizabeth Warren’s goose is cooked
No morsel of truth in her Indian identity
Boston Herald ^
Posted on 05/18/2012 8:31:49 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
If I might make one suggestion before the updated version of the Pow Wow Chow cookbook is released: Next time, Liz, hold the mayo.
Even if you were 1/1000th Native American which youre not and even if Cherokees did hold pow wows which Cherokee genealogist Twila Barnes told the Herald yesterday they dont even then, your contribution to authentic teepee cuisine is Crab With Tomato Mayonnaise Dressing?
Why didnt you throw in Tuna Casserole and Some Twinkies while youre at it?
Like her recipe (serve salad with remaining mayo on the side), everything about Liz Warren screams Im white!
In fact, I doubt you know anyone who is more white than Professor Pow Wow Chow. Her blond hair, her blue eyes, her pale, freckled skin, her wealth, her white-collar job at a white-kid Ivy League college, her liberal-suburbs-white-lady politics Liz Warren is a walking, talking tribute to Guilty, Affluent White People Who Listen To NPR American culture.
Which is why its so offensively shocking to read report after report about Warren as a woman of color. Thats the exact phrase used 15 years ago in an in-depth article from the Fordham University Law Review about minority women in academia: Harvard Law School hired its first woman of color, Elizabeth Warren, in 1995.
And shes got the cookbook to prove it!
Nobody cares that Liz Warren is not really 1/32nd or 1/64th Native American. Whats off-putting is that Warren is so clearly not a minority member in any meaningful sense of the word.
When this article and others were published describing Warren this way, she should have objected. She should have corrected the record on behalf of those Americans who have truly suffered because of their race. But instead she spent her career, as she put it, checking the box.
Heres the reaction to Warrens self-serving box-checking from Pollys Granddaughter, a Cherokee Indian and genealogist in an open letter to Harvard Laws first woman of color:
You say you only checked the box in an attempt to meet others like you, but that doesnt make sense. If one is claiming to be Cherokee and wants to meet other Cherokees, they dont check a box on a job application or in a directory for their profession! They go to where Cherokees are.
You are from Oklahoma! (emphasis in original)
Pollys Granddaughter is absolutely right. As Ive written previously, my mom was born in Oklahoma, and her great-grandmother, Nancy Hill, was a Cherokee from the Oklahoma territories. I also attended college in Tulsa, Okla. Meeting Indians in Oklahoma is as easy as knocking on a neighbors door and saying Hi, wanna come over for some crab-and-mayonnaise salad?
Being from Oklahoma also means theres a good chance Warren also encountered anti-Indian prejudice first-hand. I only lived there a few years, and I did. I ran into some Okies who spoke about Native Americans the way the worst Southern whites talked about black Americans.
Those are the Native Americans the phrase person of color is intended for, not Former member of ABBA look-alike Liz Warren.
She knows this. Shes known it her whole life. Yet shes chosen to play the role of suffering minority member, thereby making a mockery of the real suffering of others
TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: dncresumefraud; dncrico; fakeindian; fauxcahontas; harvardresumefraud; lizwarren; resumefraud; runningjoke; warren
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To: outpostinmass2
Nobody cares that Liz Warren is not really 1/32nd or 1/64th Native American. You need to review her OTHER book:
Dreams of My Great-great-great-great-great-grandfather
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posted on
05/18/2012 10:33:39 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: outpostinmass2
Whats off-putting is that Warren is so clearly not a minority member in any meaningful sense of the word. Oh?
What's 'offputting' is the mere fact that she KNEW that she WOULD get special treatment by being a 'member' of a minority group.
SHE had no hand at all in writing the LAWS and RULES that GIVE some folks an advantage over others.
Gaming the system?
Don't make me laugh!
100% full blooded 'minorities' do this all the time.
It is EXPECTED!
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posted on
05/18/2012 10:38:40 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: outpostinmass2
Usually someone who lies about small things like this will lie about many thingsIt that like being named after Sir Edmund Hillery or being with Chelsea on the streets of NY on 9-11?
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posted on
05/18/2012 10:38:40 AM PDT
by
Digger
(If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
To: agere_contra
You nailed it!
Before MLK day was a holiday; we used to have ‘speakers’ about Black this-or-that in the afternoon, after lunch, where I worked.
One could get an hour off work just by going to these.
It was a great time to take a nap.
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posted on
05/18/2012 10:42:44 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: outpostinmass2
Quote: “Usually someone who lies about small things like this will lie about many things.”
I think the left will abandon her because the lie isn’t big enough. I mean, the left only respects and votes for the big liars. Now, if she had lied about serving in Vietnam, she may, I say may, be qualified to be elected in Connecticut. But for Mass, she is going to need a much bigger lie.
To: LibertarianLiz
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posted on
05/18/2012 10:47:54 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Digger
No!
Remembering your dad marching with Martin Luther King does, though!
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posted on
05/18/2012 10:51:41 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Elsie
We have those all the time, for every kind of heritage you can imagine.
The last one I attended (after being coerced by my boss) was the 2009 Black History Month presentation. I was so angry by the time the speaker finished I marched right up to him after the presentation and challenged him on several things he said.
It was an hour long Obama love fest, with a heaping helping of republicans are idiots and black republicans are traitors. The republicans in the room were absolutely frozen in their chairs, just staring at this guy. The boss was watching or we all would have walked out.
I vowed never to attend another of of these fiascos. And since I’m boycotting one group, it’s only fair that I boycott them all.
I’m holding out for Amish Heritage Month. Then and only then will I consider going.
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posted on
05/18/2012 10:58:24 AM PDT
by
Not A Snowbird
(Running in circles and screaming is not a strategy.)
To: outpostinmass2
They don’t like fakes over in The Nations, or anywhere else for tha matter. They tend to cause problems for the true bloods.
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posted on
05/18/2012 11:24:30 AM PDT
by
oyez
( Yomomacare going done once, going down twice, going---..)
To: Maceman
Mace, John F’ Kerry was thought to be Irish, by the Blue Haired women in Southy.
To: outpostinmass2; george76
Just start calling and labeling her: Fauxahontas!
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posted on
05/18/2012 11:34:50 AM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
To: Elsie
One could get an hour off work just by going to these.
It was a great time to take a nap.
*chuckle* I once had to attend “mandatory diversity training” and groused about it at GREAT length. Then a cow-orker pointed out that he was getting paid to sit eating doughnuts instead of pulling wires through filthy chaseways and ceilings. “Let ‘me talk all they want!”
The course was given by academics; i.e. useless eaters that were unqualified anything else.
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posted on
05/18/2012 11:39:47 AM PDT
by
Peet
(Everything has an end -- only the sausage has two.)
To: Peet
Let ‘me talk all they want! >> Let em talk all they want!
Big diff ‘me and ‘em
Dyslexics if the world untie!
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posted on
05/18/2012 11:45:38 AM PDT
by
Peet
(Everything has an end -- only the sausage has two.)
To: ChildOfThe60s
The Massachusetts moon bats although large in numbers compared to other states is still a small minority of voters. The Democrats need the welfare and minority votes in order to beat Brown. The unions were actually split on Brown last time and will probably split again. If the Indian is not having pow wows in the projects she is doomed.
To: Col Frank Slade
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posted on
05/18/2012 1:23:50 PM PDT
by
Nifster
To: Grampa Dave
Remember “F Troop”? She’s from the Heck-ah-wee tribe. Many moons ago they walked and walked looking for a homeland. One day the Chief peeked over a hill, turned to his Medicine Man and asked “Where the heck are we?”
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posted on
05/18/2012 1:47:34 PM PDT
by
Terry Mross
("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
To: outpostinmass2
Warren is so clearly not a minority member in any meaningful sense of the word. I'm not going to address Warren specifically, but the larger issue that most of you probably have no knowledge of. I would hope that you read this with a open mind in the vein of learning something. First, Indian ancestry is not as transparent or obvious as other geneology. In the old days, there were no records. Tribes didn't consider just blood to be sufficent for membership. There were Indians of other tribes, and non-Indians who were considered part of members. It was the US government that introduced blood quantumization as a way to take land. It is devisive. In speaking with someone, they said that they are Irish but have Norman/Saxon blood too. The only proof was the historic records that they came into the county his ancestors are from. But can't say what day, what boat, what warrior took what maid. Some of you might have similar stories. The government even decides what constitutes a tribe. There are some tribes that have "recognized" status, and others that don't. The Miami (in Ohio) had their status nullified. Can you imagine telling 5000 people that they are no longer a tribe? Try telling that to any other nation. It would never happen. When a census was done, not every Indian listed their blood quantum. Not everyone did the census. Sometimes the census taker filled in what he thought. Not everyone is on the tribal "rolls" either. Some tribes closed their membership. Can you imagine being told that you can't come be a part of your family because the books are closed? All relatives are important, regardless of how distant. People should not be quantumized. That is something we do to animals. It is interesting that some people claim to be related to a king, queen, president, or bandit, and people say "wow", but let it be an Indian and it is suspect and ridiculed. Which relative do you think should be left out of the chain? Because of racism, there were people who hid the family heritage to keep their family safe. If they looked White, then that's what they passed for, in the southwest it was Hispanic. Not all people, Indian, White, Black, or Asian look alike. Years ago, I saw a woman who looked "White", then found out she is the great grand daughter of Will Rogers. My sister and I have had a similar experience with two different dentists in different states. The dentist looks in my mouth for the first time, and said he had never seen such a high roof except on an Indian. Surprise! There's your physical evidence. I am an American of Indian (Delaware, and Cherokee), German, and English ancestry. I honor all my relatives.
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posted on
05/18/2012 2:40:06 PM PDT
by
oneamericanvoice
(Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
To: outpostinmass2
Warren is so clearly not a minority member in any meaningful sense of the word. I'm not going to address Warren specifically, but the larger issue that most of you probably have no knowledge of. I would hope that you read this with a open mind in the vein of learning something. First, Indian ancestry is not as transparent or obvious as other geneology. In the old days, there were no records. Tribes didn't consider just blood to be sufficent for membership. There were Indians of other tribes, and non-Indians who were considered part of members. It was the US government that introduced blood quantumization as a way to take land. It is devisive. In speaking with someone, they said that they are Irish but have Norman/Saxon blood too. The only proof was the historic records that they came into the county his ancestors are from. But can't say what day, what boat, what warrior took what maid. Some of you might have similar stories. The government even decides what constitutes a tribe. There are some tribes that have "recognized" status, and others that don't. The Miami (in Ohio) had their status nullified. Can you imagine telling 5000 people that they are no longer a tribe? Try telling that to any other nation. It would never happen. When a census was done, not every Indian listed their blood quantum. Not everyone did the census. Sometimes the census taker filled in what he thought. Not everyone is on the tribal "rolls" either. Some tribes closed their membership. Can you imagine being told that you can't come be a part of your family because the books are closed? All relatives are important, regardless of how distant. People should not be quantumized. That is something we do to animals. It is interesting that some people claim to be related to a king, queen, president, or bandit, and people say "wow", but let it be an Indian and it is suspect and ridiculed. Which relative do you think should be left out of the chain? Because of racism, there were people who hid the family heritage to keep their family safe. If they looked White, then that's what they passed for, in the southwest it was Hispanic. Not all people, Indian, White, Black, or Asian look alike. Years ago, I saw a woman who looked "White", then found out she is the great grand daughter of Will Rogers. My sister and I have had a similar experience with two different dentists in different states. The dentist looks in my mouth for the first time, and said he had never seen such a high roof except on an Indian. Surprise! There's your physical evidence. I am an American of Indian (Delaware, and Cherokee), German, and English ancestry. I honor all my relatives.
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posted on
05/18/2012 2:40:39 PM PDT
by
oneamericanvoice
(Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
To: LibertarianLiz
Why is it offensive? I’m Indian and it isn’t too me. Many people only know Indians from the pow wow that they’ve attened, where they mainly introduced to fry bread. Cookbooks sell, so why not make money.
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posted on
05/18/2012 2:48:04 PM PDT
by
oneamericanvoice
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To: Grampa Dave
I’m not fond of Ward Churchill, but prove to me he isn’t Indian. Read at least some of my rather lengthy post to get some insight. Indian heritage isn’t as cut and dry as some other groups.
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posted on
05/18/2012 2:51:46 PM PDT
by
oneamericanvoice
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