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To: Tublecane
"Though you stipulated both are dopes/punks/machos and Zimmerman shouldn’t be on trial, you’ve made clear you believe Zimmerman started the fight and murdered Martin."

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Nonsense. I offer alternate, plausible scenarios.

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" Therefore, your assessment of Zimmerman’s character, based on nothing so much as what you assume happened within the evidence gap, is relevant."

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My assessment of Zimmerman is not at all based on the gap. It is based on his arrest history and the actions that we know he took before the fight.

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Your assessment of Martin’s character less so, since his machismo didn’t, in your opinion, contribute to the crime committed against him.

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Oh, you think a crime was committed against Martin?

How about you stop trying to tell me what I think and stick to my actual words.

I do think that Zimmerman was ill-prepared for the situation that was created when he got out of the car and started to follow Martin.

249 posted on 05/18/2012 1:21:25 PM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: wtc911

“Nonsense. I offer alternate, plausible scenarios.”

You offered a plausible alternative scenario which you purported to believe. Or were you lying, and only said you thought Zimmerman pulled his gun, thus setting off Martin and removing his right to self-defense?

“It is based on his arrest history and the actions that we know he took before the fight.”

Right, like I said, nothing. Because nothing in those suggests to me he is a dope, nor that he murdered Martin as you argued.

“Oh, you think a crime was committed against Martin?”

No, I meant the crime you attribute to Zimmerman. The one he committed but which he shouldn’t be on trial for based on the lack of evidence. Remember, back when you said Zimmerman shot Martin only after he was losing the fight he started by following Martin and brandishing his weapon?

“How about you stop trying to tell me what I think and stick to my actual words.”

I try, but it’s hard when apparently you forget saying things.

“I do think that Zimmerman was ill-prepared for the situation that was created when he got out of the car and started to follow Martin.”

You think not only that but also that he ran into Martin and pulled his gun, thus starting a fight which he ended by shooting Martin once he was losing.


252 posted on 05/18/2012 1:35:21 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: wtc911

“At least the sides that think either he started the fight without preplanning it or he started.”

Whoops, I screwed that up. I meant either he started the fight without preplanning it or Martin started it. There are, of course, those who think Zimmerman was not in over his head and from first seeing Martin planned his every move in order for Martin to end up dead. These people are called “Sharpton” and “Jackson.”

If you don’t actually think Zimmerman murdered him, I’m sorry, but that’s what I thought you said. Please do tell us what you actually think happened, if for no other reason than to forestall future confusion.


256 posted on 05/18/2012 1:52:17 PM PDT by Tublecane
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