[ExTxMarine]

Zimmerman himself also told police that Martin saw his gun and went for the weapon. At which time they struggled and he shot Martin.

And yes, I have seen someone start a fight and then lose. I am currently involved in such a thing on a blog, where this guy, completely devoid of reality, started speculating things which do not match the evidence. He is losing the fight, but doesn’t even realize it - it is almost sad.

[wtc911]

And yes, I have seen someone start a fight and then lose.

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Then tell us exactly how you know for a fact that this is not what happened, especially given the fact that Zimmerman was pro-active (if not aggressive) in following Martin and Martin had, according to Zimmerman himself, tried to avoid contact by running away.

[ZX12R]

He is losing the fight, but doesn’t even realize it - it is almost sad.

It is not ALMOST sad. It is very sad, and pathetic. You should have some mercy on the weak minded. What you are doing is like trying to get a liberal to admit Obama is a failure. It's simply pointless. There are none so blind, as those who will not see.