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To: antiRepublicrat

The reason sodomy laws existed is because it causes diseases and promotes vice that costs the civil society economically and health wise. There are actually very good reasons to have sodomy laws.

We have a right to outlaw acts which destroy the “general welfare” and destroy Virtue—since all Founders knew (since the time of Plato) that Virtue is necessary for a free society. The MOST important element for economies to flourish and for a successful, humane military is Virtue.


13 posted on 05/17/2012 8:51:48 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie
Excellent response and analysis. The same reasons we have laws against and discourage Prostitution, drug abuse, and other forms of moral turpitude. Only in a warped society would someone champion the right to openly engage in sodomy while making the act of driving without a seat belt illegal.

If you think that is a crazy analogy, think of how much more likely it is to get physically and psychologically damaged or die from a disease if you bugger other men as often as you drive, with or without protection while engaging in either?

15 posted on 05/17/2012 10:30:45 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: savagesusie

I generally have a problem with victimless crime laws. Oh, I know, “But society is the victim.” I don’t buy it. The further you have to stretch to find victim (as in an actual live person harmed against his will), the more likely you are going to trample on freedom. This thinking is the bedrock of the nanny state.


21 posted on 05/18/2012 5:38:27 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: savagesusie
Even though sodomy laws were rarely enforced (you'd have to have men or woman having sex in public view, which is against the law anyway) and the level of crime was usually on the order of a traffic ticket - Class C misdemeanor in Texas - it served as a powerful censure on deviant conduct, according to the vast majority of the community, ancient tradition, and our Judeo-Christian value foundation, which IS the default value system in America.

Now, the libertarians will come out of the woodwork telling us we have no right to regulate "private conduct." That argument is now proven laughable, considering the rampant homo-impositions that are being forced on normal people all over this country in this day.

23 posted on 05/18/2012 6:02:16 AM PDT by fwdude
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