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Poll: Most Americans support same-sex unions [but NOT gay marriage]
CBS news ^ | May 14, 2012 | Tucker Reals

Posted on 05/14/2012 8:33:17 AM PDT by kevcol

A new CBS News/New York Times Poll shows a solid majority of Americans support legal recognition for same-sex couples - though not necessarily through the official act of marriage - and the number of people who do support full marriage rights for gay and lesbian couples is significantly higher among younger generations.

Overall, 38 percent of those who responded to the survey said same-sex couples should be allowed to marry, just like any other couple. Another 24 percent said civil unions should be used to grant same-sex couples legal rights similar to male-female partnerships. Combined, that means 62 percent - close to two thirds - of Americans believe that same-sex unions should be recognized by law.

Of all those who participated, 33 percent said there should be no legal recognition for same-sex couples.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012polls; amendment1; civilunions; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; marriage; obama; samesexmarriage
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To: kevcol

The only recognition that the queers deserve is that they are a stink in God’s nostrils and society at large.


21 posted on 05/14/2012 9:06:19 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: kevcol

Support? Or tolerate. There’s a big difference.


22 posted on 05/14/2012 9:08:27 AM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: tcrlaf
Gay Marriage has FAILED, and FAILED BIG, in every single state it has been voted on. If everybody is “For” it, how can this be???

Some of it is due to the fact younger people/independents etc who poll "yes" for it don't vote and people who vote "against" are generally older and conservative. People get more conservative as they get older or realize they are being fleeced by the gov't.

23 posted on 05/14/2012 9:14:39 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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To: tumblindice
Support? Or tolerate. There’s a big difference.

The tolerate part of that is going down the more audacious these pervs get at bullying their agenda on the other 98% of the country. NC just voted and 61% said NO, which lines up with this poll 62% oppose homo marriage (even though its headlined with CU support). The downward trend is in the "support" for both, so even tolerance is waning. Many people who have not been paying particular attention to this are starting to, and they are speaking with their votes.
24 posted on 05/14/2012 9:20:17 AM PDT by kevcol
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To: MrB

Marriage is becoming obsolete, 4 in 10 say

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/11/18/20101118marriage-study.html#ixzz1urU3tjeV

Marriage as we have always known it probably won’t exist in another 20 years.

WASHINGTON — Unmarried mothers gave birth to 4 out of every 10 babies born in the United States in 2007, a share that is increasing rapidly both here and abroad, according to government figures released Wednesday.

Before 1970, most unmarried mothers were teenagers. But in recent years the birthrate among unmarried women in their 20s and 30s has soared — rising 34 percent since 2002, for example, in women ages 30 to 34. In 2007, women in their 20s had 60 percent of all babies born out of wedlock, teenagers had 23 percent and women 30 and older had 17 percent.

Much of the increase in unmarried births has occurred among parents who are living together but are not married, cohabitation arrangements that tend to be less stable than marriages, studies show.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/13/health/13mothers.html?_r=1

And this was three years ago. I assume it has gotten worse. Marriage with children used to be the bedrock of our society. No longer.

The divorce rate has supposedly gone down because fewer people are marrying.

http://marriage101.org/divorce-rates-in-america/

I fear the unraveling of American society will continue.


25 posted on 05/14/2012 9:26:13 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Da Coyote

How do they dissolve a civil union? Are civil unions available to heterosexual couples? What about close relatives? Can I have a civil union with a friend to get on her health insurance? If civil unions are “just as good” as marriage, why marry? It is all so confusing!


26 posted on 05/14/2012 9:30:15 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: kevcol
I think this is a big win for Obama. Americans don't like their personal lives being legislated.
27 posted on 05/14/2012 9:31:51 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: kevcol

I think the gay marriage issue is just another attempt to degrade the culture. I have no particular problem with civil unions, but marriage is a wall that shouldn’t be torn down, and that is exactly what this attempt is, an attempt to tear down a cultural wall of longstanding.

If it goes down, it’s only a matter of time before the wall goes down (already down in some other cultures) dictating that marriage should involve only two people, and we’ll get polygamy legalized.

Ultimately the Man-Boy love crowd (of which there aren’t many perhaps, but who are the most radical of the bunch) will attack the concept of prohibiting minors from marrying adults, and then you’ll have cultural chaos, exactly as intended.

I’d like to think the liberal press and Hollywood are just dupes in all this, but their complicity is too obvious to draw that conclusion. We are never going to see a mainstream television series that portrays the Man-Boy Love crowd for the degenerates that they are, for example. And we are never going to get a TV series that puts the threatening actions of the gay activists on full display either, nor a balanced report in the MSM detailing the despicable tactics directed at those with whom they disagree.

Leave the decision to the States. We know which ones will legalize gay marriage anyway, since their fiscal policies are as bankrupt as their cultural policies. The farther left those states go, the less the likelihood that the rest of us will consent to bailing them out when they hit their financial Armageddon.


28 posted on 05/14/2012 9:33:17 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: thethirddegree
The only recognition that the queers deserve is that they are a stink in God’s nostrils and society at large. That's just the brown jelly you're smellin'
29 posted on 05/14/2012 9:35:13 AM PDT by jrg
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To: kevcol

CBS is trying to “civil union” equals homosexual marriage BS the voters.

This is just commie propaganda style incrimentalism. (see the old outer limits (?) episode called “the flag”)


30 posted on 05/14/2012 9:35:48 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: IbJensen

Homosexuality is a disease. They know this to be true just as we always have known it. What this really is about is the homosexuals engaged in an aggenda to be accepted and seen as normal. They have to understand that they will never be normal. It is a disease with no cure.


31 posted on 05/14/2012 9:46:58 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Flavious_Maximus

There are layers to “what this is really about”.
The homos want acceptance of their mental illness as “normal”.

The left wants to use the homos as a weapon in the war on traditional/Christian values and the family as a concept.


32 posted on 05/14/2012 9:49:31 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Sam Gamgee
Americans don't like their personal lives being legislated.

This is not about legislating personal lives, its about the coordinated effort of a group of people (2% of the population), whose identity is defined by unnatural, unhealthy and perverted sexual acts, to force the government to endow them with rights and privileges based on that "identity".
33 posted on 05/14/2012 9:52:00 AM PDT by kevcol
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To: kevcol
I agree with you. I was just vocalizing how it will be spun from the Obama camp. My experience is that Americans are increasingly rejecting candidates who focus on social conservative issues. Social conservatism is going the way of the dinosaur. The moderate voter is being lead to believe that social conservatives are “scary”.
34 posted on 05/14/2012 9:57:10 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Sam Gamgee
I agree with you. I was just vocalizing how it will be spun from the Obama camp. My experience is that Americans are increasingly rejecting candidates who focus on social conservative issues. Social conservatism is going the way of the dinosaur. The moderate voter is being lead to believe that social conservatives are “scary”.

Ah, okay - you forgot the /s tag, which was not self-evident.

I think the issue with what is referred to as "social conservatism" is exactly that - the way that certain Constitutional issues have been dismissed as "social". This enables those pushing any number of socialist agendas to write off opposition to legitimate Constitutional encroachment/threats as "social issues".
35 posted on 05/14/2012 10:06:10 AM PDT by kevcol
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To: kevcol

They’re not reporting on reality, they’re attempting to create it.

In any case, nature is what nature is, no matter what anyone thinks about it.

And in more than thirty states, when the question has been put to the people, they have overwhelmingly supported real marriage. Even in states that are supposedly heavily liberal.


36 posted on 05/14/2012 10:12:59 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (We're not Republicans or Democrats. We're Americans. Visit SelfGovernment.US.)
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To: GOPJ
I know one gay couple and they truely want “marriage” for gays...they are not the typical gays who parade up and down the streets. They are for Obama all the way. They are both independently wealthy so I don't know their insurance and financial situation.
37 posted on 05/14/2012 10:13:18 AM PDT by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Pretty soon the gays will be the only ones getting married;o) Seriously, those trends are becoming more obvious; thanks for the stats.


38 posted on 05/14/2012 10:18:20 AM PDT by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: kevcol

Yes to “civil unions” but no to “marriage”? Sorry, it’s a buy-one-get-one-free deal.

This sort of “I’ll accept this but not that” myopia is why Aristotle said the young should stay out of politics.


39 posted on 05/14/2012 10:19:46 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: RexBeach

Homosexual behavior was declared abhorrent to the Lord in the LAW of God. Yes, in the Old Testament; but repeated in the New Testament by Paul clearly in the book of Romans. - Christ was not quoted on the matter, but He kept the WHOLE LAW perfectly in order to be qualified to be our substitution on the cross.

I would that no one indulge in homosexual behavior; but I know I cannot tell those so inclined what to do. They aren’t getting anywhere changing man’s laws in many of the states. They certainly aren’t getting anywhere trying to change God’s laws ANYWHERE as far as the Lord is concerned.


40 posted on 05/14/2012 10:29:37 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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