Romney backs away from gay adoptions [Friday night, after endorsing Thursday]

CBS news ^ | May 11, 2012 | Matthew Shelley

[kevcol]

(CBS News) Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney on Friday backed away from his support of adoptions by same-sex couples, saying that he simply "acknowledges" the legality of such adoptions in many states.

A day earlier, Romney, in an interview with Fox News' Neil Cavuto, had indicated that while he does not support same-sex marriage, he considers the adoption of children by same-sex couples a "right."

He said on Thursday: "And if two people of the same gender want to live together, want to have a loving relationship, or even to adopt a child -- in my state individuals of the same sex were able to adopt children. In my view, that's something that people have a right to do. But to call that marriage is something that in my view is a departure from the real meaning of that word."

But then on Friday, he was asked, in an interview with CBS' WBTV in Charlotte, N.C., how his opposition to same-sex marriage "squared" with his support for gay adoptions. Romney told anchor Paul Cameron, "Well actually I think all states but one allow gay adoption, so that's a position which has been decided by most of the state legislators, including the one in my state some time ago. So I simply acknowledge the fact that gay adoption is legal in all states but one."

[DBeers]

...but if someone gay, straight, single or otherwise wants to help a homeless orphan out by offering them a place in their home... I sure wont stand in their way.

WOW... I think you are confused...

Are you sure you are a conservative?

[DBeers]

...you would deny the child the choice to be adopted if he or she choose to by a gay person?

Would you care to define "gay person"? You keep promoting these "people" as normal -just like all of us... What exactly makes them "gay"?

In other words, does a fondness for anal sex make one a good parent as YOU seem to suggest repeatedly here?

[DBeers]

I’m still confused

I would agree with you.

Romney sucks.

[DBeers]

Romney has won in 26 states...

Blah... Blah...

Obama won too...

So did Hitler...

You defend the man whose policies suck. Care to defend his policies and in essence defend progressive leftism?

Lesser of two evils remains evil and will strengthen the RINO progressive foothold in the GOP.

Get a clue -the RINO progressive foothold in the GOP is the more imminent danger. IF the GOP goes down then conservatives will have to start from scratch at the Presidential national level like they have already started doing right now at the State level e.g. the Tea Party. It is no simple disagreement that premises the Tea Party and the GOP being at odds -it is all about conservative principle that Romney severely lacks... IF the GOP did not a conservative problem there would be no Tea Party!

[alstewartfan]

Wouldn’t it be great if we had an HONEST nominee, such as Sarah Palin? The enthusiasm factor would be off the charts. Bob

[txrangerette]

I start from the premise that Romney is a horrible candidate.

Where I get off the train is when people are attacked for knowing he’s horrible YET voting for him in order to end Obama’s hateful reign of destruction on America.

I can understand why they would, even though I won’t vote for him. I don’t for a second buy that every Romney vote by a conservative is one done because they aren’t really conservative, or they’re too ignorant to understand what Romney is, you name it.

The entire state of Texas is a good example. I believe good, common sense, conservative Texans will vote Obama out [without MY vote]. Not because they support Romney but because of legitimate Obama-induced FEAR. And deep ANGER.

And I will defend people like that to my last breath.

I know my people.

Therefore I in fairness won’t attack those in swing states who decide to endure that painful vote in order to stop Obama.

I have also said, if you (meaning anyone, not you personally) can’t bring yourself to do that, I understand you, too.

I don’t accuse you of deliberately re-electing Obama, because I accept that you can’t bring yourself to do it.

It will be every man’s/woman’s conscience for itself.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Romney needs to stay on an economic message and not be drawn into this briar patch the Left is nurturing.

Romney is not at home in a briar patch.

[txrangerette]

No, he isn’t at home there.

I heard the clip where he referred to gay adoptions of kids as being “fine” but he’s against gay marriage.

It was basically a toss off line.

It only caused him far more trouble than if he had stuck to a script, any script, economy or gay marriage, anything.

But in this business you need more savvy and quick on your feet ability than THAT.

He later tried to clarify by saying they were legal in all states except one and that’s all he meant.

I’ve read some things indicating even that isn’t correct.

I don’t know if it’s correct or not, but the whole thing is just symptomatic of what’s wrong with Romney.

But our state will vote for ABO.

If you attack any of us here for our views that such a vote is defensible, then you have attacked every person in every such state, and you have attacked every state, that will vote OBAMA OUT.

Even though I won’t vote for Romney, THAT I will never do.

I know my people, and they don’t deserve that.

[kevcol]

If not, and if 0dumb0 gets re-elected, than I hope & pray for a secession of 14-18 Southern & Western states and to dare 0dumb0 to do anything about it. Hopefully most of the rank & file military would support the seceding states, but I am convinced that most of the senior officers (colonels, generals, admirals, etc) will firmly be in 0dumb0's camp. I would join these seceding states in a heart beat. OTOH this would likely never happen anyway as our country is too far down the socialist path to Hell.

Okay, I think I have identified where there is a split between one element of ABO and FUMRIWVFY (I Won't Vote For You), and that is "too far down the socialist path". I do not believe that the non-state-supported/non-liberal/legal citizenry has been put to the test yet... Firearm and ammo sales are through the roof and on back order for months in some cases. This is not a symptom of a country too far down the path to socialism to recover - IMO this is a symptom of a citizenry preparing to defend the Constitution by any means necessary. I am not as convinced as you are that the top brass would align with the wrong side in a CWII, just look at CWI for en example. If my choices are: Willard for 8 years (or Willard then another Marxist [D]) with the same end result - Conservatives finally marginalized for good and [R] party idealogically where the [D] party is today, or resisting and surviving 4 years of lame duck 0 (with the caveat of the possible need for an "patriotic event" in the unlikely event of marshall law, rule by executive order etc...) with a chance to nominate a true Conservative in 2016, I go with #2.

You can easily bypass this entire argument as well if you cast your vote according to your spirituality and trust in Him. Either way my decision is: No Obamao, No Willard, I will vote for someone else at the top of the ticket.

[kevcol]

Wouldn’t it be great if we had an HONEST nominee, such as Sarah Palin? The enthusiasm factor would be off the charts. Bob

YES! Obamao is a sitting duck. ANY conservative (but especially Sarah) could have knocked him off. This should have been OUR year. Instead we get the same s**t sandwich as usual courtesy of cheating/strong arming in the delegate system and GOP-e mega$$$$$$ carpet bombing the real Conservatives when it mattered most.

[Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears]

“Even if it means four more years of an empty suited incompetant liberal.”

Did you just call Obama an “empty suited incompetent liberal”?

HAHAHA, that’s rich. If only that were the case. You can’t be that naive.

He is a committed Marxist ideologue, bent on destroying this country and replacing it with a socialist Utopia. And he’s pretty close to achieving his goals.

(See tagline)

[LADY J]

"We need a REVOLUTION AT THE CONVENTION!

The estiablishemnt RINO GOP insider elites are OUR ENEMIES!! WE DON’T HAVE TO TAKE IT!!!"

That sounds like a great plan. Now!! ELABORATE. How do we do it & WHO do we ALL get behind as our candidate?' We still have time - but just talk with no plan won't accomplish anything.

[L,TOWM]

You should be a little more careful about whom you call naive, sir.

We have basically the same economic system as the People’s Republic China right now and have for several years. Do you really believe you still have the rights specified in the first 10 amendments to the constitution?

The United States of America was dead before I saw my 18th birthday. It just took me another 30 years to recognize that fact and to recognize the fact that our government is now of, by, and for about 25,000 to 50,000 people and the rest of us are just wiping their butts for them. When our betters decide what needs to be done, it is done, constitution or the good of the nation be dammed.

If you still believe you live in something that our founders would recognize as a free republic, you may need to address the naive comment to the mirror.

Zero is nothing - a face bought and paid for by the same people that bought and paid for both Bushes & Clinton. If he gets a little too uppity our disrupts the apple cart enough to tick the market down too many points, he’ll get a pat on the head and kicked back to the plantation with the rest of serf’s before you can say “yes we can”.

[af_vet_rr]

Willard would permanently redefine the party leftward. This would marginalize Conservatives for a generation (at least) and give the GOP-e the real mandate it wants: to tell Conservatives to sit down, shut up and get with the program.

Exactly. I've seen a few fools who think that we can somehow influence Romney. If Romney gets in, he is going to surround himself with people like him, and he will strengthen the liberal grip on the GOP. If Romney gets the nomination and loses (which he probably will), we'll still see somebody even more liberal being run in 2016, assuming Romney doesn't make another run.

Every GOP candidate starting in 1988 with George H. W. Bush has been more and more liberal, and Mittens is just the last in 24 year string of RINOs.

The challenge is for Conservatives to truly unite and to truly stand up to the liberals running the GOP. As long as we keep getting brainwashed into automatically voting for the Republican simply because he has an (R) next to his name, that will not happen, and the liberals will continue to consolidate their power within the GOP.

[af_vet_rr]

In the House, Boehner is the most incompetent, inept, ineffective Speaker of the House we could possibly end up with. He is a cry baby, and he is dumber than dirt and looks it with his deputy dog droopy eyes, and along with Biden, ranks as the 2 dumbest politicians in DC!

You want something scary? In a Romney administration, Boehner and the rest of the RINOs in Congress would automatically sign off on anything Romney wants.

So if 0dumb0 wins this coming Nov 2012, we will likely no longer have a country or constitution by 2016.

People were saying that in 2008, and it didn't happen, and since 2008 we've made gains in Congress, and should make gains this year. We can survive Obama, and we could even survive Romney, but we have to buckle down, because either one is going to do a lot of harm to this country. Hell, we survived the Civil War, and that was much worse than what we have here in 2012.

[af_vet_rr]

As far as I'm concerned its much worse than gay marriage. As I predicted, Obama played Romney perfectly knowing that Romney would go off the rails to fight it. Next week it will happen again with some other issue, and the week after....

This is but one of many reasons why I hated seeing Gingrich drop out. Romney is already allowing himself to be played by Obama's people, and they haven't even gotten into the serious campaigning.

If Romney can allow himself to be so easily manipulated by Obama and the MSM, it's going to be incredibly painful watching the general election play out.

[cripplecreek]

I supported Santorum but like you I supported my guy because he knew where he stood and wasn’t going to back down or triangulate under pressure.

[SoConPubbie]

So... basically your saying that it’s better for the government to raise the child than ANY gay person?

I'm saying under NO circumstances should a child be given to a gay couple or a gay individual.

There is no good reason period to do this.

The scripture I posted to you makes that clear, plain and simple.

And frankly, my associations with homosexuals has only re-inforced that scripture definition of their lives and the total evilness they live in.

[rcrngroup]

We're dealing in hypotheticals at this time, talking about secession, but in fact I do believe we are already too far down the socialist hell-hole under any scenario of a U.S. citizenry taking up arms against the USSA.

Secondly, whether most of the top brass supports 0dumb0? In the 2008 election, 0dumb0 had a photo shoot of over 50 retired generals & admirals, all firmly in 0dumb0's camp. Can you imagine how it is now with active officers not advancing in rank, unless they suck up to 0dumb0 & his socialist policies, including active support for homosexuals & lesbians, and condescending to any special treatment for muzzies in the military? I predict 70-80% of the top brass (just like the top execs in any major, politically correct Fortune 500 company) are firmly in the tank for 0dumb0.

Thirdly, this is IMHO, but any vote for anybody but Willard is a vote for 0dumb0. I would rather try to sway Willard on his views or policies, as opposed to a commie pig like 0dumb0 on steroids or cocaine, who has no incenctive after 2012 (assuming he wins the 2012 election) to slow down any part of his communist agenda.

[rcrngroup]

Personally I think our situation is far more serious now, than at any time in history, and that includes the CW I. That was primarily a states rights conflict. We now have a deviant, evil, perhaps even non-U.S. citizen as president of our country, who is a committed socialist-marxist commie pig of the highest degree. He is committed to taking the U.S. down his pathway to socialist-marxist-communist Hell, because that is the essence of his globalist/new world order ideology & agenda.

We survived from 2008 to now, largely because we won the House back in Nov 2010 (even though droopy eyes crybaby Boehner has squandered and lost any momentum or surge from that) and 0dumb0 could not fully release his evil for this country because he NEEDS that 2nd term victory in Nov 2012. Assuming he wins the 2012 election, he will be an evil despot on steroids or cocaine, as there will be nothing to restain him or his evil socialist-marxist-commie pig agenda.

I would rather try to influence Romney to change his socalist tendencies, rather than trying to influence or change a commie pig like 0dumb0 who would have no incentive whatsover to modify or change his evil agenda.