Romney backs away from gay adoptions [Friday night, after endorsing Thursday]

CBS news ^ | May 11, 2012 | Matthew Shelley

[kevcol]

(CBS News) Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney on Friday backed away from his support of adoptions by same-sex couples, saying that he simply "acknowledges" the legality of such adoptions in many states.

A day earlier, Romney, in an interview with Fox News' Neil Cavuto, had indicated that while he does not support same-sex marriage, he considers the adoption of children by same-sex couples a "right."

He said on Thursday: "And if two people of the same gender want to live together, want to have a loving relationship, or even to adopt a child -- in my state individuals of the same sex were able to adopt children. In my view, that's something that people have a right to do. But to call that marriage is something that in my view is a departure from the real meaning of that word."

But then on Friday, he was asked, in an interview with CBS' WBTV in Charlotte, N.C., how his opposition to same-sex marriage "squared" with his support for gay adoptions. Romney told anchor Paul Cameron, "Well actually I think all states but one allow gay adoption, so that's a position which has been decided by most of the state legislators, including the one in my state some time ago. So I simply acknowledge the fact that gay adoption is legal in all states but one."

[unique1]

Therefore, you will more than likely secure the goal you may or may not be seeking - Obama will be re-elected. Now, that is an outcome that needs to be avoided, in my opinion.

Not you, of course, but sometimes I wonder about those posting here that have the same bottom line result in mind that you do - are they really Obama supporters or simply not caring for Romney? In either case, they are sure doing a good job of electing Obama and seem to have delayed the 100% mark on contributions to FR as well. Geez, perhaps we are doomed?

Thanks for the discussion. I’m still confused by your intended or unintended goal, but let’s see how in works out in November.

[GeronL]

I have no goal except not to vote for liberals.

I do not support candidates that I cannot morally vote for.

It is up to the candidate to gather his votes, to earn them. The outcome is no one else’s fault.

[kabar]

Romney has received 6.4 million votes compared to Santorum’s 3.6 million, Gingrich’s 2.5 million, and Paul’s 1.6 million.

[little jeremiah]

How many were open primaries. For one thing.

[kabar]

We could end up with 4 years of Obama followed by 8 years of another Democrat, especially if Obamacare is overturned and Congress put the breaks on Obama’s remaining ambitions.

If Obamacare is upheld by SCOTUS, it will be implemented if Obama has four more years. Congress can't stop it. And if the Reps don't get 60 seats in the Senate, then even getting something thru Congress will be impossible. Obama will veto anything that tries to undo Obamacare.

Once we have Obamacare plus probably two more Obama Justices in the Supreme Court, it really matters not who follows Obama. Everthing else that follows will just be arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

A good economy plus an amnesty could pave the way for another 12 years worth of Democrat presidents. ABO

If we have an amnesty, it will be game, set, and match for the US of A. Not only will 12 to 20 million illegals have their status legalized, according to the Heritage Foundation, an amnesty will cost $2.6 trillion just for the entitlement program costs and allow 66 million more LEGAL immigrants to be sponsored by those who receive amnesty thru chain migration, i.e., family reunification. And that is only if we have 12 million illegals. We just can't assimilate those numbers.

Here is Eliseo Medina, SEIU, speaking about how amnesty will make the (Progressives (Dems) the permanent majority party

[kabar]

Romney has won in 26 states: Alaska, Arizona, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming Territories: District of Columbia, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico

He has come in second in 9: Colorado, Georgia, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee Territories: U.S. Virgin Islands

And third in 4: Alabama, Minnesota, Mississippi, North Dakota

Santorum has won 11, come in second in 13 (plus two territories), and third in 8 plus one territory.

[muawiyah]

I watch what these guys do ~ not so much what they say. After all they are well practiced professional politicians so they can say anything you might like.

BTW, if you'd given the speech you'd hit it out of the ballpark too ~ but nobody would be there to hear it ~ still it'd be the same speech.

So much for the speech. Now, it's up to Romney and his Mittbots to figure out how they are going to win an election against Obama without the support of the social Conservatives. He's going to have to make some promises to us and take some actions showing good faith.

Bouncing Priebus out of the RNC chairmanship would be a start ~ a small one ~ and sending the gay staffers and financiers off to greener pastures another.

It's gotta' be done or it's 2006 all over again.

[muawiyah]

Believe it or not it's happened before ~ 2006 and 1964.

Although the Goldwater campaign and its result are a lot more complex than most analysts can fathom, it wasn't just a simple case of Barry being TOO CONSERVATIVE ~ if anything he was quite in tune with the greater part of the party ~ the Regular Republicans, the Presidential Republicans and the Blue Hairs from Kenosha (the old money from the Midwest ~ his wife was a principal heir for Borg Warner for pete's sake.).

Barry did have difficulty following his own analysis of the electorate, something I've continued to study for another 48 years, but he was on the right path.

He was so absolutely stupendously correct Lyndon Johnson took his analysis to hot and beat him like an egg!

LBJ saw that all he needed to do was hold the Democrat base ~ which he did easily since JFK had been assassinated ~ and slice off a Republican faction.

As you recall 1964 was a big year for Black Civil Rights laws ~ a number had been passed but they wanted improved access to voting in the South. LBJ had delivered for them with the Comprehensive Civil Rights Act of 1964 ~ he promised a voting rights act in 1965 if he were re-elected.

In that one thing he sliced off the remaining black Republican faction in the Republican party permanently ~ all of them! He got the ones in the North, the ones the South, the ones in the West, and the ones who were far more organized in the Northeast and Chicago. ALL OF THEM. And as their numbers grew and they obtained greater access to the ballot box the black vote became more and more important. Where JFK had gotten 70% of a far lower number of black voters, LBJ got 94% of a greater number.

The voting totals for blacks in those days were nothing like they were in 2008, but LBJ got them all, and with that edge ~ a piece of the Social Conservatives inside the Republican coalition, black Evangelicals, abandoned the party and voted for the Democrat~ a notorious letch and drunk!

Goldwater didn't have a chance. He'd also fought the Civil Rights act in Congress in 1964 and that didn't help him, but LBJ's promise for 1965 pretty much sealed the deal.

Now we've got another situation just like that. Romney is the candidate of choice for the Presidential Republicans, the Northeastern Republicans, but not really for the Regular Republicans (the folks who take care of down-ticket electioneering0. He is also the candidate of choice for the Kenosha Blue-Hairs! (In this case quite literally, since Romney's old man was the President of the predecessor company to much of SE Wisconsin's industry, American Motors, headquartered in Kenosha).

All that's missing is a piece of the Republican party share of the Social Conservatives who will go to the Democrats, or who will simply not vote.

I suspect they will not vote for Romney, and it'll look like 1964 all over again.

Karl Rove will blame it on the anti-gay Social Conservatives who didn't show up to vote. So will everybody on FOX, and on National Review On Line, and on National Review, Spectator, Cato, Commentator, Human Events, etc.

My price for political advice will increase substantially after the election

[TexasFreeper2009]

So... basically your saying that it’s better for the government to raise the child than ANY gay person?

Are gays more likely to molest children ... ? maybe, I don’t know. But surely your not suggesting that ALL gay people want to molest children? If if there is a way through background checks, interviews,ect to week out the pervs from the gays who just want to help raise a child that would otherwise be raised by the state that no one else wanted... you would deny the child the choice to be adopted if he or she choose to by a gay person?

[bog trotter]

ME neither.
Just yesterday I received a call from someone claiming to be from the RNC wanting me to help save the country from Obama.
I told her that I hadn’t voted for either Dole or McCain and didn’t plan to vote for Romney either.
She gasped and I told her that when they offered me someone I could vote FOR, I would.
But, until then, lose my number.

[Dajjal]

Etch-A-Sketch bump

[Politicalmom]

How much is Mitten’s campaign paying you?

[caww]

I’m impresssed with your information. Very interesting...thank you.

[caww]

Geron.....I’m voting against both. But I am curious why the Gop put Romney out there knowing full well the people would oppose him? Could be they did this purposely knowing Obama could use all sorts of tactics to take Romney out...then the fall of this nation would be on the Democrates and Obam? In other words the GOP does not want this mess Obamas made....to clean it up only to have the democrates come in in 2016 and take credit for the work Republicans did to stablilize the ship for them..so they could then take it further down?

[caww]

They've been calling me as well, both state an national...and it's all about taking Obama out rather than speak about Romney's record....and they're hyper as they speak....as said..as if the nation is depending on Romneys win to save the country.

This is fear-mongering and unfortunately many are going to vote Romney for that reason...they're afraid.

Like you I told them when they can put a candidate out there that's electable and conservative...then we'll talk about donations...until then my money was going to conservative candidates....and why.

[caww]

You need to do some research on the gay community.....but aside from that would you put a child in “potential” danger by allowing gay couples to adopt them?...knowing that there are many in the gay community who could well molest or harm that child.....let alone the “confusion” that the kid will insticntively know something isn’t right.

I say no to gays adopting children...period.

[caww]

You need to do some research on the gay community.....but aside from that would you put a child in “potential” danger by allowing gay couples to adopt them?...knowing that there are many in the gay community who could well molest or harm that child.....let alone the “confusion” that the kid will instinctively know something isn't right.

I say no to gays adopting children...period.

[GeronL]

The country club establishment GOP has never liked conservatives very much. To me it feels like they decided to punt on this Presidential last summer or thereabouts. That’s just a feeling I got.

I have no idea of their motives. Maybe there was a handshake or maybe they were finally able to shake off the conservative vote in the primary and are now at a loss with what to do now.

We need elect as many conservative House and Senate members as we can, because it looks bad either way. Kick the RINO’s out in the primaries as often as possible!

[caww]

We need elect as many conservative House and Senate members as we can, because it looks bad either way. Kick the RINO’s out in the primaries as often as possible!

Of course...I intend to do just that. But I can't for the life of me understand the GOP pushing for Romney. ..and frankly none of them are really excited about him. So punt may very well be the case.

[rcrngroup]

It's a tough choice, but not as simple as "do you really want 4 more years of Obamao?" Willard would permanently redefine the party leftward. This would marginalize Conservatives for a generation (at least) and give the GOP-e the real mandate it wants: to tell Conservatives to sit down, shut up and get with the program. Is gridlocking Obamao for 4 years with a more Conservative congress and the possibility of a true Conservative on the ticket in 2016 a worse option than that?

Actually it is as simple as "do we want 4 more years of 0bamao?" First of all, 0dumb0 doesn't give a rat's ass as to the problem of gridlock or not. He will use his "Executive Orders" to effectively rule as a dictatorship, supported by the partisan in-the-tank media, and dare the House GOP or GOP Senate to do anything about it. If they pass a bill or bills to counter the Executive Orders, 0dumb0 will simply veto the bill and his veto will hold up. I don't believe the Senate will be flipped to the Repubs anyway in the Nov 2012 election.

In the House, Boehner is the most incompetent, inept, ineffective Speaker of the House we could possibly end up with. He is a cry baby, and he is dumber than dirt and looks it with his deputy dog droopy eyes, and along with Biden, ranks as the 2 dumbest politicians in DC! Boehner has SINGLE-HANDEDLY destroyed ALL the momentum & surge coming out of the Nov 2010 elections with his ineptness. 0dumb0 has played Boehner to be an incompetent fool. Boehner lost the fight on raising the debt ceiling right from the very start, and instead caved in to give 0dumb0 another $2.4 TRILLION with meaningless stipulations that 0dumb0 just pays lip service to. Boehner kicked the can down the road on the Bush tax cuts expiring & 0dumb0 will play him for an inept fool when this debate is reignited. He goes golfing (more than once) with the traitor 0dumb0. 0dumb0 conducts an illegal war against Libya without congressional authorization within the 60 day deadline and nothing happens. 0dumb0 & Holder are laughing at the threats by the House GOP re. Fast & Furious, and the murder of Border Patrol agent Terry. 0dumb0 has made illegal NON-recess appointments and the GOP Senate has done nothing. Etc., etc., etc!

So if 0dumb0 wins this coming Nov 2012, we will likely no longer have a country or constitution by 2016. 0dumb0 will be on a drug induced HIGH as he destroys & rips apart our country and steals the few remaining freedoms we have. And he will openly mock the pathetic inept GOP House or Senate trying to stop him.

I have been a firm supporter of Newt from the very start...unfortunately that has not worked out, we have Mitt Romney instead. And believe me, it IS as simple as do we want 4 more years of unrestrained 0dumb0 on steroids (or cocaine)? That RAT bastard will destroy our country for good. It better be Anybody But 0dumb0, even if that anybody is Mitt Romney. If not, and if 0dumb0 gets re-elected, than I hope & pray for a secession of 14-18 Southern & Western states and to dare 0dumb0 to do anything about it. Hopefully most of the rank & file military would support the seceding states, but I am convinced that most of the senior officers (colonels, generals, admirals, etc) will firmly be in 0dumb0's camp. I would join these seceding states in a heart beat. OTOH this would likely never happen anyway as our country is too far down the socialist path to Hell.