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It's a tough choice, but not as simple as "do you really want 4 more years of Obamao?" Willard would permanently redefine the party leftward. This would marginalize Conservatives for a generation (at least) and give the GOP-e the real mandate it wants: to tell Conservatives to sit down, shut up and get with the program. Is gridlocking Obamao for 4 years with a more Conservative congress and the possibility of a true Conservative on the ticket in 2016 a worse option than that?

Actually it is as simple as "do we want 4 more years of 0bamao?" First of all, 0dumb0 doesn't give a rat's ass as to the problem of gridlock or not. He will use his "Executive Orders" to effectively rule as a dictatorship, supported by the partisan in-the-tank media, and dare the House GOP or GOP Senate to do anything about it. If they pass a bill or bills to counter the Executive Orders, 0dumb0 will simply veto the bill and his veto will hold up. I don't believe the Senate will be flipped to the Repubs anyway in the Nov 2012 election.

In the House, Boehner is the most incompetent, inept, ineffective Speaker of the House we could possibly end up with. He is a cry baby, and he is dumber than dirt and looks it with his deputy dog droopy eyes, and along with Biden, ranks as the 2 dumbest politicians in DC! Boehner has SINGLE-HANDEDLY destroyed ALL the momentum & surge coming out of the Nov 2010 elections with his ineptness. 0dumb0 has played Boehner to be an incompetent fool. Boehner lost the fight on raising the debt ceiling right from the very start, and instead caved in to give 0dumb0 another $2.4 TRILLION with meaningless stipulations that 0dumb0 just pays lip service to. Boehner kicked the can down the road on the Bush tax cuts expiring & 0dumb0 will play him for an inept fool when this debate is reignited. He goes golfing (more than once) with the traitor 0dumb0. 0dumb0 conducts an illegal war against Libya without congressional authorization within the 60 day deadline and nothing happens. 0dumb0 & Holder are laughing at the threats by the House GOP re. Fast & Furious, and the murder of Border Patrol agent Terry. 0dumb0 has made illegal NON-recess appointments and the GOP Senate has done nothing. Etc., etc., etc!

So if 0dumb0 wins this coming Nov 2012, we will likely no longer have a country or constitution by 2016. 0dumb0 will be on a drug induced HIGH as he destroys & rips apart our country and steals the few remaining freedoms we have. And he will openly mock the pathetic inept GOP House or Senate trying to stop him.

I have been a firm supporter of Newt from the very start...unfortunately that has not worked out, we have Mitt Romney instead. And believe me, it IS as simple as do we want 4 more years of unrestrained 0dumb0 on steroids (or cocaine)? That RAT bastard will destroy our country for good. It better be Anybody But 0dumb0, even if that anybody is Mitt Romney. If not, and if 0dumb0 gets re-elected, than I hope & pray for a secession of 14-18 Southern & Western states and to dare 0dumb0 to do anything about it. Hopefully most of the rank & file military would support the seceding states, but I am convinced that most of the senior officers (colonels, generals, admirals, etc) will firmly be in 0dumb0's camp. I would join these seceding states in a heart beat. OTOH this would likely never happen anyway as our country is too far down the socialist path to Hell.

If not, and if 0dumb0 gets re-elected, than I hope & pray for a secession of 14-18 Southern & Western states and to dare 0dumb0 to do anything about it. Hopefully most of the rank & file military would support the seceding states, but I am convinced that most of the senior officers (colonels, generals, admirals, etc) will firmly be in 0dumb0's camp. I would join these seceding states in a heart beat. OTOH this would likely never happen anyway as our country is too far down the socialist path to Hell.

Okay, I think I have identified where there is a split between one element of ABO and FUMRIWVFY (I Won't Vote For You), and that is "too far down the socialist path". I do not believe that the non-state-supported/non-liberal/legal citizenry has been put to the test yet... Firearm and ammo sales are through the roof and on back order for months in some cases. This is not a symptom of a country too far down the path to socialism to recover - IMO this is a symptom of a citizenry preparing to defend the Constitution by any means necessary. I am not as convinced as you are that the top brass would align with the wrong side in a CWII, just look at CWI for en example. If my choices are: Willard for 8 years (or Willard then another Marxist [D]) with the same end result - Conservatives finally marginalized for good and [R] party idealogically where the [D] party is today, or resisting and surviving 4 years of lame duck 0 (with the caveat of the possible need for an "patriotic event" in the unlikely event of marshall law, rule by executive order etc...) with a chance to nominate a true Conservative in 2016, I go with #2.

You can easily bypass this entire argument as well if you cast your vote according to your spirituality and trust in Him. Either way my decision is: No Obamao, No Willard, I will vote for someone else at the top of the ticket.

In the House, Boehner is the most incompetent, inept, ineffective Speaker of the House we could possibly end up with. He is a cry baby, and he is dumber than dirt and looks it with his deputy dog droopy eyes, and along with Biden, ranks as the 2 dumbest politicians in DC!

You want something scary? In a Romney administration, Boehner and the rest of the RINOs in Congress would automatically sign off on anything Romney wants.

So if 0dumb0 wins this coming Nov 2012, we will likely no longer have a country or constitution by 2016.

People were saying that in 2008, and it didn't happen, and since 2008 we've made gains in Congress, and should make gains this year. We can survive Obama, and we could even survive Romney, but we have to buckle down, because either one is going to do a lot of harm to this country. Hell, we survived the Civil War, and that was much worse than what we have here in 2012.