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1 posted on 05/12/2012 6:22:05 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

There will be some legal attempts to stop the changes coming, but it’s going to be tough fighting them off. So if you are a teacher with the city...your $90k in salary a year probably has seen it’s peak. You might want to lessen your lifestyle.


2 posted on 05/12/2012 6:31:48 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Kaslin

It’s said to be implicit in all contracts that all parties are acting in good faith - exhibiting fairness, reasonableness, and decency. I wonder if they could void the contract on those grounds.


3 posted on 05/12/2012 6:40:55 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Kaslin

This illustrates the problem with labor unions. Over time, the wages, benefits, hiring and work rules deviate further and further from those which would be imposed by the market. They ultimately bear no resemblance to economic reality. They do not adjust to changing economic circumstances as they do in a free market. Yet, you can’t change them, at least without fighting a world war. They are completely inflexible.

Having said as much, I would say however, that they are good for their own members, provided that they don’t put the employer out of business. It’s just like a parasite. They get fat off the host, provided they don’t kill it.

Of course, it’s not so good for the host in any event. And the rest of us (who are not union members) are the host.


4 posted on 05/12/2012 6:51:58 AM PDT by Brilliant
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“You can’t always get what you want
You can’t always get what you want
You can’t always get what you want
But if you give enough money to the Democrats
..............you can.”


5 posted on 05/12/2012 7:00:45 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Kaslin
A labor agreement is a contract between TWO parties. Someone in Detroit (and other cities) AGREED to these provisions. The teachers can't just make it all happen by themselves. We never read a hit piece on the bastards who signed off on the perks -- it's all just the evil teacher's fault.

So wait for the contract to expire, and negotiate the new terms. Instead of bitching about the work rules of the teachers, change them. Say no to the perks, and stand your ground, Detroit. The teachers won't strike in this economy.

That is what is happening with teacher's contracts all over the country. Teacher's are taking pay cuts and freezes, and contracts are being rewritten from the ground up. And the teachers themselves are fine with it -- it is the unions who are whining about it. Most teachers hate their unions. Trust me on that.

6 posted on 05/12/2012 7:24:21 AM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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“Emergency managers in Michigan have the legal power to void these labor contracts, but doing so would cause a great deal of labor “unrest” that DPS can ill-afford at the moment.”

Doing what must be done when it must be done is what a manager is for...so why are these people being called “managers”?

9 posted on 05/12/2012 8:23:22 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Kaslin

One union to rule them all,
one union to find them.

One union to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.


10 posted on 05/12/2012 8:59:34 AM PDT by Principled
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To: Kaslin

They need to consult with the governor in their neighboring state of Wisconsin on how to handle these matters. I won’t hold my breath waiting for them to do that.


11 posted on 05/12/2012 9:13:58 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Romney vs. Obama? One of them has to lose, I'll rejoice in that fact, whichever it is.)
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To: Kaslin
“. . . do public schools exist for kids [or] for the adults who staff them?”

As the former (deceased) head of the NY teacher's union said; “We'll start teaching kids when they start paying union dues.”

In a word, these public schools (or indoctrination centers) are filled with greedy union thugs and aided and abetted by public politicians who think nothing about spending other people's money (that is, taxpayers). These teacher contracts and work rules negotiations are like two wolves and a sheep sitting down to decide what is for dinner. Surprise! Lamb chops (taxpayers) are on the menu for dinner.

12 posted on 05/12/2012 9:48:11 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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13 posted on 05/12/2012 2:32:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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