Posted on 05/11/2012 4:14:25 PM PDT by Milagros
EXACTLY!!!!!
AGREED.
Most of the “terrorist” busts in the last several years have been stings in which the government furnishes guns and bombs, fake or real, then busts the perps.
4 1/2 years ago? You don’t think a supposed troll would have been unmasked before now?
Overview:
Located 150 kilometers northeast of the Georgian capital, Tbilisi, the Pankisi Gorge has a reputation for lawlessness that openly challenges the prestige of the central government.
Bordering Russia’s breakaway region of Chechnya to the south, the Pankisi Gorge is three kilometers wide and 30 kilometers long. The area has been home, since the beginning of the first Chechen conflict in the mid-1990s, to criminal gangs specializing in weapons smuggling, drug trafficking, and kidnapping. Reports that these gangs operate in conjunction with corrupt politicians or foreign intelligence services have not been confirmed.
Since the Kremlin launched its second Chechen campaign three years ago, some 15,000 Chechen civilians have sought refuge in Pankisi — some temporarily, others permanently. An estimated 6,000 refugees are still believed to remain in the region.
The Pankisi Gorge has been a major bone of contention between Georgia and Russia, which has maintained that hundreds of Chechen fighters were hiding among the refugees and using the area as a base of operations.
Following the invasion of Russia to Chechnya, in 11/1999, and the beginning of the Second Chechen War, it was estimated by Western Intelligence Organizations that about 4,000 refugees from Chechnya fled to Pankisi-Gorge. According to United Nations High Commission for Refugees (UNHCR), more than 85 percent of the Chechen refugees found home with local Chechen families in several villages in the Pankisi-Gorge region. In fact the Chechen created a Chechen community linked to the Chechen community in Chechnya.
In summer 2001 Ruslan Gelayev took advantage of the situation and founded in Pankisi-Gorge his training camp and his base of operations against Russians in the Northern Caucasus, especially Chechnya and Ingushetia.
The Pankisi-Gorge has been a diplomatic sore point between Moscow and Tbilisi, based on the formers ascertain that the Georgian government has been incapable of containing the movements of Chechen fighters allegedly operating from the Pankisi-Gorge. In 2002, Vladimir Putin, the Russian premier, threatened military action against Pankisi-Gorge. Tbilisi relented to Russian pressure, agreeing to joint border patrols and the extradition of suspected Chechen separatists. However, in 09/2002, following the Galashki Raid led by Ruslan Gelayev and launched from Pankisi-Gorge, Russian jets bombed the Gorge, inflicting causalities amongst the Chechen refugee population.
In 10/2002, the Georgian government handed to Moscow five of thirteen Chechens requested by Russia, despite fears for their safety and the absence of due process. But, citing a European Court of Human Rights ruling, Georgia refused to hand over the remaining suspects. Nevertheless, the extraditions elicited the condemnation of the Chechen government-in-exile.
The events led, in 2003, the USA to establish a $64 million Train and Equip program to strengthen Georgias counter-terrorism capabilities, with focus on Pankisi-Gorge.
Here’s te meat: ttp://wlstorage.net/file/crs/RS21319.txt
“...New Revelations. A major shift in Georgia’s view of Chechnya and the Pankisi Gorge occurred in early December 2002 when an armed group from Russia crossed into Georgia to commit crimes. Reportedly, the group had earlier left the Pankisi Gorge following Georgia’s crackdown. Shevardnandze asserted that the group constituted the spearhead of terrorists “planning to carry out wide-ranging terrorist acts in Tbilisi,” and announced a nation-wide anti-crime operation, stating that “I made a big mistake when I failed to pay attention to the terrorist threat.” He also alluded to Georgian press reports that prominent Chechen rebel leaders had threatened the Georgian government. He stated that the anti-crime operation would not be aimed against peaceful Chechens residing in Georgia. Responding to Shevardnadze’s announcement, Putin commended Shevardnadze “for decisive action in the struggle against terrorism.”3...”
In some circles, “troll” = “someone who does not toe the Kremlin line.”
WOW...
Thanks for the info.and taking the time to give us this info/.
And, thank you for recognizing my work. It isn’t always easy to find the facts but I try my best.
Yes, or should I say, “Da!”
>>>>>>I have real problems believing any group in Georgia wants to help empower an Islamic state next door.>>>>>>>
Georgian government is a group supporting every power against Russia.
Pankisi gorge bordering Russia was a safe heaven for Chechen terrorists for decades.
It was a main reason for Russian airstrikes into Georgia before 2008.
US actually sent troops there to eradicate Chechens there in about 2004 to ease Russian-Georgian tensions and eliminate reasons for full scale Russian operations.
Also there is a really few reasons to love Georgian government. They spent a lot for PR projects portraying Georgia as a freedom heaven but it is everything but.
Pro-western shift in Georgia is good and I can’t judje their efforts to divorce with Russia, but Georgia is still not close to that it wants to look like.
Georgian revolution which brought their president to power was Soros-type and a president himself is a tinpot dictator living for American taxpayers’ money.
People are nice and pro-American there and they are victims to his policies of poking a bear into eye.
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I have friends in Georgia, not close friends but friends. The Georgian Government thinks much less of MUZZES than they do of Moscow and Putin.
I dont think so. Every so-called protest leader in Moscow is connected directly to the neo-Nazi Soros. And the mob protesting in Moscow is equivalent to our Occupy Wall Street commies, anarchists and criminals.
Your sign-up date meshes neatly with Soros unleashing his various PR company buys and the establishment of trolls to infiltrate the Internet.
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Do be honest not every group protesting in Moscow is connected to Soros.
The majority of Occupy Moscow protestors are libs and commies but there are decent folk as well who wants Putin government out for a reason.
Russia is declaring war with a U.S. State?!?!?!
;p
“The Georgian Government thinks much less of MUZZES than they do of Moscow and Putin.”
You’re right. My apologies. I’m getting my players and dates mixed up.
Blowing up Russia: The Secret Plot to Bring Back KGB Terror
by Alexander Litvinenko, Yuri Felshtinsky, Geoffrey Andrews and Co (Translator)
Synopsis: Blowing Up Russia contains the allegations of ex-spy Alexander Litvinenko against his former spymasters in Moscow which led to his being murdered in London in November 2006. In the book he and historian Yuri Felshtinsky detail how since 1999 the Russian secret service has been hatching a plot to return to the terror that was the hallmark of the KGB. Vividly written and based on Litvinenko's 20 years of insider knowledge of Russian spy campaigns, Blowing Up Russia describes how the successor of the KGB fabricated terrorist attacks and launched a war. Writing about Litvinenko, the surviving co-author recounts how the banning of the book in Russia led to three earlier deaths.
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Blowing-up-Russia/Alexander-Litvinenko/e/9781594032011
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From Heritage.org, November 27, 2006:
The death of former Russian spy, Alexander Litvinenko, last week from radioactive Polonium-210 poisoning is the latest in a series of politically motivated attacks on the outspoken opponents of Russian President Vladimir Putin.
http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed112706a.cfm
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"Appearing alongside high-profile opponents of President Putin, he [Alexander Litvinenko] has continued to make allegations about his former bosses. Perhaps most notably, he alleged that al-Qaeda number two Ayman al-Zawahiri was trained by the FSB in Dagestan in the years before 9/11".
By Konstantin Preobrazhensky
Americans generally believe that Russia is afraid of Islamic terrorism as much as the U.S.A. They are reminded of the war in Chechnya, the hostage crisis at the Beslan School in 2004 and at the Moscow Theater in 2002, and of the apartment house blasts in Moscow in 1999, where over 200 people were killed. It is clear that Russians are also targets of terrorism today.
But in all these events, the participation of the FSB, Federal Security Service, inheritor to the KGB, is also clear. Their involvement in the Moscow blasts has been proven by lawyer Mikhail Trepashkin, a former FSB Colonel. For this he was illegally imprisoned, and is now suffering torture and deprivation of medical assistance, from which he is not likely to survive.
A key distinction between Russian and American attitudes towards Islamic terrorism is that while for America terrorism is largely seen as an exterior menace, Russia uses terrorism as an object as a tool of the state for manipulation in and outside the home country. Islamic terrorism is only part of the world of terrorism. Long before Islamic terrorism became a global threat, the KGB had used terrorism to facilitate the victory of world Communism.
This leads to the logical connection between Russian and Islamic terrorism. The late Alexander Litvinenko, poisoned in London in November, 2006, told me that his former FSB colleagues had trained famous Al-Qaeda terrorists Ayman Al-Zawahiri and Juma Namangoniy during the 1980s and 1990s. Ayman Al-Zawahiri, one of the world's most wanted terrorists, has been responsible for the murder of U.S. nationals outside the United States. Before his death, Juma Namangoniy (Jumabai Hojiyev), a native of Soviet Uzbekistan, was a right-hand man of Osama bin Laden in charge of the Taliban's northern front in Afghanistan.
In 1996, Alexander Litvinenko was responsible for securing the secrecy of Al-Zawahiri's arrival in Russia, who was trained by FSB instructors in Dagestan, Northern Caucasus, in 1996-1997.
At that time, Litvinenko was the Head of the Subdivision for Internationally Wanted Terrorists of the First Department of the Operative-Inquiry Directorate of the FSB Anti-Terrorist Department. He was ordered to undertake the delicate mission of securing Al-Zawahiri from unintentional disclosure by the Russian police. Though Al-Zawahiri had been brought to Russia by the FSB using a false passport, it was still possible for the police to learn about his arrival and report to Moscow for verification. Such a process could disclose Al-Zawahiri as an FSB collaborator.
In order to prevent this, Litvinenko visited a group of the highly placed police officers to notify them in advance. "If you get information about some suspicious Arabs arriving in the Caucasus, please report it to me before informing your leadership", he told them.
Juma Namangoniy was once a student of the Saboteur Training Center of the First Chief Directorate of the KGB in 1989-91. The school was notorious for the international terrorists who matriculated from it. It now belongs to the FSB, and since only KGB staff officers were allowed to study there, Juma Namangoniy's presence clearly suggests that he was much more than a civil collaborator.
Mohammed Atta, the pilot of the first plane to crash into the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, had met with a senior Iraqi intelligence agent in Prague, Czech Republic, five months before the attack. But Iraqi intelligence was just a client of Russia's intelligence service. It brings a new understanding to the fact that President Putin was the first foreign President to call President Bush on 9/11. One may conjecture that he knew in advance what was to happen.
Muslim Name and Communist Heart
Tartars have always been patriotic to Russia. Their independent kingdom was conquered by Russia in the 16th century, but their gentry were allowed to join the Russian upper class and enjoy all its privileges. Even today, many Russian families of noble origin have Tartar origins. Russia has a half-millennium of experience in turning conquered Muslim nations into obedient citizens by bribing their elite.
There are many Soviet Muslims, therefore, who seem to face no conflict of spirit. One can be a Muslim in name only, whose heart belongs to Communism. There have been a lot of such people among Russian Muslims, especially among the Tartars. The Soviet Union has typically preferred to appoint them as ambassadors to Muslim countries. Their Muslim names give them a pass to the local society, but their Communist hearts order them to serve world Communism and not the world of Islam.
In the Soviet period, the highest leadership of the Muslim republics like Uzbekistan were unofficially allowed to practice Islam under the guise of folk rites, even though their Russian colleagues were severely reprimanded for participating in such Christian "rites" as Christmas or Easter. Unlike today, Soviet cartoonists were able to mock Islam as they mocked all other religions and it didn't bring any special reaction.
Muslims of the Uzbek and other Central Asian republics' elite joined the KGB intelligence in order to spy on fellow Muslim countries. In the KGB, I have met a lot of such quasi-Muslim officers.
Russia Grows Muslim
Putin continues the traditional Russian policy of giving privileges to the Muslim elite. Today's Russian Minister of Healthcare, Mikhail Zurabov, is a Chechen. His political agenda includes the total destruction of the Russian healthcare system, looking like revenge for the war in Chechnya. Putin shows no concern over that.
Strategically Russia is surrendering to the Muslim world. The Russian population is declining rapidly, being undermined by 70 years of Communist experiment and the cold indifference of post-communist rulers. Annually, Russia is losing 900 thousand people who are being replaced by Muslims from the Caucasus and Central Asia. Islam is now the second-largest religion in Russia, where it may total up to 28 million adherents. Because of this, Russia was able to join the Organization of the Islamic Conference in 2003.
Russia's great qualitative population change represents both a departure from the past and a strengthening link with it. The synergies between the history of Russia's national policies of terrorism and the radical Islamic terrorism that it is spreading around the world are natural partners that may severely impact on America's own future.
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Konstantin Preobrazhensky, a former Lt. Colonel in the KGB who defected to the United States in 1993, is an intelligence expert and specialist on Japan, about which he has written six books. His newest book Russian-American, A New KGB Asset will be published in late 2007. This article was first published by Gerard Group International, Intel Analyses, 31 August 2007.
http://cicentre.com/Documents/russia_islam_not_separate.html
Thanks for this input.
KGB'S AGENT OF INFLUENCE
History Upside Down: The Roots of Palestinian Fascism and the Myth of Israeli Aggression - Page 23 - David Meir-Levi - ReadHowYouWant.com, 2010 - 208 pages
In 1964, the first PLO Council, consisting of 422 Palestinian representatives handpicked by the KGB, approved the Soviet blueprint for a Palestinian National Chartera document drafted in Moscowand made Ahmad Shukairy, the KGB's agent of influence, the first PLO chairman.
http://books.google.com/books?id=nJSd7fZ-GhYC&pg=PA23
UNITED STATES CRYPTOLOGIC HISTORY
Ahmed Shukairy, also admitted to receiving Chinese aid. PLO representatives had been sent to Vietnam and communist China to observe communist guerrilla..
http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/uss_liberty/attack_sigint.pdf)
Thanks for that. I’ll take a look when I have more time.
Those protesting the genocidal murderer KGB Putin are patriotic Russian nationalists who don’t want to keep wasting all of Russia’s money “rebuilding” Chechnya and stealing territories from Georgia. Putin promotes Occupy Wall Street and Soros on his state-run Russian media channel Russia Today because he is an anti-American scumbag.
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