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Health department raids community picnic and destroys all food with bleach
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| March 2012
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Posted on 05/09/2012 1:54:48 PM PDT by No One Special
Health department raids community picnic and destroys all food with bleach
We were told our food was unfit for consumption and demanded that we call off the event...
Quail Farm
The evening was everything I had dreamed and hoped it would be. The weather was perfect, the farm was filled with friends and guests roaming around talking about organic, sustainable farming practices. Our guests were excited to spend an evening together. The food was prepared exquisitely. The long dinner table, under the direction of dear friends, was absolutely stunningly beautiful. The music was superb. The stars were bright and life was really good. And then, ...for a few moments, it felt like the rug was pulled out from underneath us and my wonderful world came crashing down. As guests were mingling, finishing tours of the farm, and while the first course of the meal was being prepared and ready to be sent out, a Southern Nevada Health District employee came for an inspection.
Community Dinner at Quail Farm
Because this was a gathering of people invited to our farm for dinner, I had no idea that the Health Department would become involved. I received a phone call from them two days before the event informing me that because this was a "public event" (I would like to know what is the definition of "public" and "private") we would be required to apply for a "special use permit." If we did not do so immediately, we would be charged a ridiculous fine. Stunned, we immediately complied.
We were in the middle of our harvest day for our CSA shares, a very busy time for us, but Monte immediately left to comply with the demand and filled out the required paper work and paid for the fee. (Did I mention that we live in Overton, nowhere near a Health Department office?) Paper work now in order, he was informed that we would not actually be given the permit until an inspector came to check it all out. She came literally while our guests were arriving! In order to overcome any trouble with the Health Department of cooking on the premises, most of the food was prepared in a certified kitchen in Las Vegas; and to further remove any doubt, we rented a certified kitchen trailer to be here on the farm for the preparation of the meals.
The inspector, Mary Oaks, clearly not the one in charge of the inspection as she was constantly on the phone with her superior Susan somebody who was calling all the shots from who knows where.
We were told our food was unfit for consumption and demanded that we call off the event because:
EH Specialist II Mary Oakes
- Some of the prepared food packages did not have labels on them. (The code actually allows for this if it is to be consumed within 72 hours.)
- Some of the meat was not USDA certified. (Did I mention that this was a farm to fork meal?)
- Some of the food that was prepared in advance was not up to temperature at the time of inspection. (It was being prepared to be brought to proper temperature for serving when the inspection occurred.)
- Even the vegetables prepared in advance had to be thrown out because they were cut and were then considered a "bio-hazard".
- We did not have receipts for our food. (Reminder! This food came from farms not from the supermarket! I have talked with several chefs who have said that in all their years cooking they have never been asked for receipts.)
At this time Monte, trying to reason with Susan to find a possible solution for the problem, suggested turning this event from a "public" event to a "private" event by allowing the guests to become part of our farm club, thus eliminating any jurisdiction or responsibility on their part. This idea infuriated Susan and threatened that if we did not comply the police would be called and personally escort our guests off the property. This is not the vision of the evening we had in mind! So regretfully, again we complied.
The only way to keep our guests on the property was to destroy the food
Bleach is poured on organic food
I can't tell you how sick to my stomach I was watching that first dish of Mint Lamb Meatballs hit the bottom of the unsanitized trash can. Here we were with guests who had paid in advance and had come from long distances away anticipating a wonderful dining experience, waiting for dinner while we were behind the kitchen curtain throwing it away! I know of the hours and labor that went into the preparation of that food. We asked the inspector if we could save the food for a private family event that we were having the next day. (A personal family choice to use our own food.) We were denied and she was insulted that we would even consider endangering our families health. I assured her that I had complete faith and trust in Giovanni our chef and the food that was prepared, (obviously, or I wouldn't be wanting to serve it to our guests).
Farm food is destroyed
I then asked if we couldn't feed the food to our "public guests" or even to our private family, then at least let us feed it to our pigs. (I think it should be a criminal action to waste any resource of the land. Being dedicated to our organic farm, we are forever looking for good inputs into our compost and soil and good food that can be fed to our animals. The animals and compost pile always get our left over garden surplus and food. We truly are trying to be as sustainable as possible.) Again, a call to Susan and another negative response. Okay, so let me get this right. So the food that was raised here on our farm and selected and gathered from familiar local sources, cooked and prepared with skill and love was even unfit to feed to my pigs!?! Who gave them the right to tell me what I feed my animals? Not only were we denied the use of the food for any purpose, to ensure that it truly was unfit for feed of any kind we were again threatened with police action if we did not only throw the food in the trash, but then to add insult to injury, we were ordered to pour bleach on it.
Food Lined up to Be Destroyed by Health Department
Now the food is also unfit for compost as I would be negligent to allow any little critters to nibble on it while it was composting and ingest that bleach resulting in a horrible death. Literally hundreds of pounds of food was good for nothing but adding to our ever increasing land fill! At some point in all of this turmoil Monte reminded me that I had the emergency phone number for the Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund (FTCLDF) on our refrigerator. I put it there never really believing that I would ever have to use it. We became members of the Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund several years ago as a protection for us, but mostly to add support to other farmers battling against the oppressive legal actions taken against the small farmers trying to produce good wholesome food without government intrusion. The local, sustainable food battle is being waged all across America! May I mention that not one battle has been brought on because of any illness to the patrons of these farms! The battles are started by government officials swooping down on farms and farmers like SWAT teams confiscating not only the wholesome food items produced but even their farm equipment! Some of them actually wearing HAZMAT suits as if they were walking into a nuclear meltdown! I have personally listened to some of their heart wrenching stories and have continued to follow them through the FTCLDF's updates.
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To: No One Special
Man, what a filthy dump! I'd never eat there. (sarc)
41
posted on
05/09/2012 3:08:13 PM PDT
by
faucetman
( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
To: No One Special
Nice tale, not sure I believe it. I’ve had sit-down dinners for well over 100 people at my home, numerous times, in a state much more fascistic than Nevada. Some catered, some byo. Never did any govt official say boo about the quality of the chow.
42
posted on
05/09/2012 3:16:02 PM PDT
by
Lady Lucky
(Non-compliant, not govt-issued, and not voting for Romney.)
To: struggle
Tell them to go get the police and start eating.Or handcuff her to the table, take her cell phone, and put a plate in front of her. If the phone rings, tell them she's eating and she'll have to call them back after dinner.
43
posted on
05/09/2012 3:20:40 PM PDT
by
tacticalogic
("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
To: No One Special
Now about the little details...
“we were ordered to pour bleach on it”
I’m calling that BALONEY. They might have the authority to stop you from serving it to a large crowd, but they have none whatsoever to tell you to destroy it. It’s your property. Your stuff.
Or it’s your fantasy.
And if by some miracle it actually did happen, it’s because, as the writer claimed, “We complied...we complied...we complied.”
Personally, I think it’s far more likely they have -—
lied, lied, lied.
44
posted on
05/09/2012 3:22:06 PM PDT
by
Lady Lucky
(Non-compliant, not govt-issued, and not voting for Romney.)
To: No One Special
“Again, a call to Susan and another negative response. Okay, so let me get this right. So the food that was raised here on our farm and selected and gathered from familiar local sources, cooked and prepared with skill and love was even unfit to feed to my pigs!?! Who gave them the right to tell me what I feed my animals?”
Must have something to do with the Commerce Clause — Wickard or something like that.
45
posted on
05/09/2012 3:25:30 PM PDT
by
goldi
To: Cyber Liberty
I’ve been to the link, and see nothing inherently “liberal” about it. It’s a CSA farm, which is a politically-neutral (and capitalist) agricultural model. I’m a member of a local CSA myself, purely because I like getting cheap, good produce - certainly not for any political reasons.
To: Conscience of a Conservative
Im a member of a local CSA myself... Oh, then never mind.
47
posted on
05/09/2012 3:33:20 PM PDT
by
Cyber Liberty
(Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
To: No One Special
[ Imagine what a sympahetic Hollywood could do with your scenario. :-) ]
You are assuming the “rebels” in Hollywood had something called a “spine”....
It is easy to rail against a system that doesn’t kill dissidents....
48
posted on
05/09/2012 3:34:09 PM PDT
by
GraceG
To: Cyber Liberty
To: Cyber Liberty
Oh, then never mind. What, exactly, is so "liberal" about a CSA?
To: No One Special
I wish them luck. I see from the website they got smart about the Food to Fork dinners: “Members Only.”
51
posted on
05/09/2012 3:37:02 PM PDT
by
Cyber Liberty
(Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
To: No One Special
The State is Mother, The State is Father, the State is provider of all.
52
posted on
05/09/2012 3:37:02 PM PDT
by
tcrlaf
(Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
To: No One Special
(That’s Farm to Fork. Getting late in the afternoon here)
53
posted on
05/09/2012 3:37:40 PM PDT
by
Cyber Liberty
(Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
To: Lady Lucky
You could very well be right. This is why we need real reporters who are HONEST and want to get the truth out.
To: Conscience of a Conservative
[ According to the website of this very liberal outfit named “Quail Hollow Farm,”
1) What makes you think this farm is a “very liberal outfit”?
2) Even if they are, who cares? We shouldn’t be picking and choosing which government intrusions to oppose, based on whose rights are intruded upon. ]
Voluntary Socialism is a Beautiful and very nice heartwarming thing...
It is when you start putting the government boot of forced coercion behind it and make it involuntary in that it ruins lives.
55
posted on
05/09/2012 3:42:34 PM PDT
by
GraceG
To: Lady Lucky
SNHD Meets with Owners of Quail Hollow Farm to Resolve Concerns:
Quail Hollow Farm owners, Monte and Laura Bledsoe met with Southern Nevada Health District (SNHD) officials last week along with Commissioner Tom Collins after a SNHD inspector threatened to shut down a Farm-to-Fork Dinner at the farm on Friday, October 21 because the meat for the dinner had not been USDA certified. The meeting, scheduled by Collins staff, was meant to resolve issues arising from the incident and avoid future problems. According to SNHD officials, the reason that the event had come to the attention of the SNHD in the first place was because it had been an advertised event and was open to the public as a paid dinner. If guests had not been paying for the dinner, it would not have come under the eyes of the district, officials said.
If no money is exchanged, then there is no expectation of sanitation in Nevada, stated SNHD official Susan LeBay at Wednesdays meeting.
But LeBay said that, with appropriate lead time, district staff were willing to work with the Bledsoes to find a way to do what they wanted.
It appears to have really happened, and also appears to have been not nearly so surprising as this thread suggests.
I do think government overregulates, but given the general nature of regulation, you can't run a public restaurant on your farm and not expect to have to follow the health department rules.
To: Cyber Liberty
(Thats Farm to Fork. Getting late in the afternoon here)
When big government is involved it is “Fork to Thigh”
As in... “I must jab this fork into my leg s I don’t speak out against it and get sent to the Gulag. I just hope I have enough vodka left over from my drinking binge last night to disinfect the wound when I go back to the community shack on the collective farm...”
57
posted on
05/09/2012 3:44:43 PM PDT
by
GraceG
To: Conscience of a Conservative
I’ve probably misjudged them. Whenever I trip over the word “sustainability” too many times, I tend to relate the writer to liberals. It would be a lot easier if liberals would simply self-identify honestly, and I didn’t have to parse everything to figure out where they’re coming from.
That, and I was teasing you when I said, “Never mind.” Awwww, never mind....
58
posted on
05/09/2012 3:47:12 PM PDT
by
Cyber Liberty
(Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
To: No One Special
Step 1. Refuse to acknowledge the event is public.
Step 2. Refuse to purchase their stupid permit.
Step 3. The second someone claiming jurisdiction sets foot on your property demand to see a duly constituted Warrant of some kind.
If no Warrant is produced proceed to Step 4.
Step 4. Inform said gent of the State they are trespassing on private property and that force, including deadly force, will be used on them if they do not depart immediately.
Step 5. Escalate as necessary.
59
posted on
05/09/2012 3:52:16 PM PDT
by
Lurker
(The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
To: CharlesWayneCT
[ According to SNHD officials, the reason that the event had come to the attention of the SNHD in the first place was because it had been an advertised event and was open to the public as a paid dinner. If guests had not been paying for the dinner, it would not have come under the eyes of the district, officials said. ]
Technically that would shut down lemonade stands, church bazaar dinners(that you have to buy a raffle ticket to get into), those evil bake sales, etc...
You could even ague that a pot-luck dinner would apply too as you had to “barter your dish to be able to eat other dishes”
In cases of prostitution they have considered “barter” as a method of “payment” so why not consider a public pot-luck event as the same damned thing only worse because of all that “uncontrolled food” streaming in. (reason it is called pot-luck is “I hope I am Lucky and don’t get sick”)
God help anyone who opens a lemonade stand near a state border that requires people to give a cookie in exchange for lemonade.
[I do think government overregulates, but given the general nature of regulation, you can’t run a public restaurant on your farm and not expect to have to follow the health department rules.]
Did this happen every day? Every week? Or was it a periodic event happening say (3-4 times a year).
I would hate to think they could shut down a church fundraiser dinner that occurs once a month....
Growing up my parents took me to “Polka Dance” Once a month in Nebraska and to pay for the band they charged us an admission fee and drinks were provided. Technically the Nevada Health Depart could have shut them down for the EXACT same reasons.
60
posted on
05/09/2012 3:55:44 PM PDT
by
GraceG
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