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RNC might block entire Nevada delegation over Ron Paul delegate mischief
The Hill ^ | 5/03/12 | Justin Sink

Posted on 05/04/2012 3:07:15 PM PDT by Libloather

RNC might block entire Nevada delegation over Ron Paul delegate mischief
By Justin Sink - 05/03/12 08:53 AM ET

The Republican National Committee is warning the Nevada GOP that if supporters of Ron Paul are allowed to take too many slots for the national convention, the party may opt against seating the state's entire delegation.

"I believe it is highly likely that any committee with jurisdiction over the matter would find improper any change to the election, selection, allocation, or binding of delegates, thus jeopardizing the seating of Nevada’s entire delegation to the National Convention," said John R. Phillippe Jr., the chief counsel for the RNC, in a letter obtained by the Las Vegas Sun.

The RNC is concerned that the Paul campaign will game the state-level convention this weekend that selects delegates to the national convention. While Mitt Romney should be awarded 20 of the state's 28 delegates, based on his dominating win in the state's primary, it's possible that Paul supporters could exploit their strength in the Nevada GOP to get named to some of those delegate slots.

The national party is apparently concerned those delegates would then ignore party rules that would bind them to vote for Romney on the first round of balloting.

"If a prospective delegate’s name is certified to the RNC but has not been approved by an authorized representative of the candidate he or she professes to support, grounds for a contest may exist," Phillippe wrote. "In any case, to the extent a prospective delegate is purportedly elected in excess of the number of slots allocated to his or her preferred candidate, such delegate will be bound to vote at the national convention for the candidate to whom that delegate was allocated."

The national Republican organization is increasingly anxious over the ability of the Paul campaign to take over state-level organizations, especially in states like Iowa and Nevada that have outsized importance on the nominating process. National Republicans worry that if grassroots party loyalists aren't supporting the presumptive nominee, the party could struggle against President Obama's fundraising and organizational efforts. But Paul supporters say they should be credited for their ability to organize and win all-important delegates.

The congressman himself said Monday that his campaign was "doing very, very well" by exploiting some of the party's more obscure delegate selection rules.

"Just look at this last week. The news is very favorable to us. We could even end up winning Iowa, ironically enough. In Minnesota, we're doing well, and Maine, Nevada and Missouri. We're doing very, very well. Some of the states we could very well win or come up very much because the delegate process is completely different than these straw votes," Paul told Bloomberg TV.

"We're pleased. ... It's another month or so until they count all the delegates and we find out where we stand."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: delegates; fraudpaul; galvestonsnoopy; nevada; paul; paulbots; paulestinians; rino; rnc; ronpaul
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To: william clark

Yeah! Now that you mention it...


21 posted on 05/04/2012 4:09:03 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1200 of our ObamaVacation from reality [and what dark chill/is gathering still/before the storm])
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To: ngat
Please take enough space to explain fully, as I am not so familiar with Libertarianism, and would really like to know.

No need to take a lot of space.I disagree hugely with (not loathe) libertarians because they invariably have far too much in common with Rats for my liking.The more one has in common with Osama Obama and his ilk the less I trust or respect him.

22 posted on 05/04/2012 4:11:33 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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To: Libloather

Wait a minute, ron Paul is a republican. Rnc, you made the rules, now live with it.


23 posted on 05/04/2012 4:13:50 PM PDT by jdirt
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To: Libloather

Actually I’ll bet the RNC would do that for any state that dared not to send a slate of delegates holding Romney signs.


24 posted on 05/04/2012 4:16:16 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Gay State Conservative

Since the one who loathes Libertarians would not answer, and I am not so familiar with Libertarianism, but you did give good explanation, that they invariably have far too much in common with Rats, this raises the questions, what exactly do they have in common with rats? I have heard many of them desire decriminalization of marijuana, like many rats. What else do they have in common with rats?


25 posted on 05/04/2012 4:19:16 PM PDT by ngat
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To: freeandfreezing
Priebus' buddy Walker is getting a lot of Freeper, Libertarian, Religious and TEAPArty support keeping his office as governor.

I proposed that we can get Priebus' attention real quick by giving up Walker to the Democrats ~ else he can get in line and start running the RNC like he's a Republican and not somebody's staff aid.

26 posted on 05/04/2012 4:21:54 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: autumnraine

“Read an article about Lamar County Georgia delegate issue with the Ron Paul’ers.”

We had issues with them in Gwinnett County, gA as well as district 4.


27 posted on 05/04/2012 4:27:53 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: ngat
NOTE: Libertarians are supposed to be different but on many critical Conservative issues Libertarians, Liberals and Libertines are out of synch with us.

On some issues the Libertarians are doctrinaire Republican.

Here's an issue of FOLLOWING RULES and already the RNC doesn't want those rules followed because, alas, they are "last minute changes', yet in other cases the RNC refused to act on equally disruptive "last minute changes'.

We are all better off with honest people in the RNC. Sad, but we don't have any.

28 posted on 05/04/2012 4:29:00 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: A Strict Constructionist
Either we have a delegate system or we don’t. Set the rules and live by them. I’m tired of the Rino’s and others gaming the system. And people wonder why we have such bad government. It starts before anyone is elected.

Rules are for other people.

The Michigan Republican Party (MRP) Credentials Committee voted 4-2 last night to give Mitt Romney both of the state's at-large delegates, State Policy Committee Chair Mike Cox told MIRS today.

Cox was one of two "no" votes on the committee which met via telephone, along with attorney Eric Doster The "yes" votes included GOP National Committeeman Saul Anuzis, a Romney supporter, and MRP Chair Bobby Schostak.

That would put the delegate split at 16 for Romney and 14 for Rick Santorum, after each candidate won 14 delegates apiece in those divided by Michigan's 14 congressional districts.

As MIRS first reported on Wednesday, the MRP was delaying a final decision on the delegate split until after consulting with attorneys.

Cox said that according to the MRP rules, Santorum and Romney should each get one of Michigan's two at-large delegates based on their take of the popular vote.

"I supported Mitt, but the vote was clearly wrong," Cox said of the Credentials Committee. "It's kind of like Third World voting. We published rules and then we voted to change the rules."


Because The Narrative Cannot Survive A Rewrite

There's some speculation swirling in Michigan that our RINO governor (Rick Snyder) is a potential VP pick. The speculation is fueled by the fact that the Michigan delegation has received hotel assignments that traditionally go to the state of the VP choice (Only Mass. got better rooms). Romney's brother Scott is Mitt's campaign finance manager and good friends with Rick Snyder.

It actually makes good strategic sense for Romney. Snyder has a short but very good record here, however its only because he's signed good legislation handed to him by the legislature. Beyond what Snyder has signed, he's pro green energy, pro high speed rail, pro socialized medicine and was only nominated for governor due to crossover voters who made up nearly 40% of the voters in his primary.
29 posted on 05/04/2012 4:39:44 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Libloather

L. Ron Paul and his cult members tried to do the same thing in 2008, but Nevada’s State GOP Chairman, Sue Lowden, put a stop to it and Nevada allocated its delegates to the Republican National Convention in proportion to the results of the state’s caucuses. The Paulestinians never forgave Lowden for preventing their chicanery. When Lowden ran for the U.S. Senate in 2010 as a solid conservative who would have defeated Harry Reid in the general, the Paulestinians started spreading every lie and unsubstantiated rumor possible about Lowden, which, combined with Lowden’s gaffe regarding health care (she used a terrible example of the free-market system, saying someone could pay a doctor with a chicken), ensured that Lowden lost the primary and the not-ready-for-primetime Sharron Angle got the nomination instead.


30 posted on 05/04/2012 5:06:31 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: ngat; LucyT
I am not so familiar with Libertarianism, but you did give good explanation, that they invariably have far too much in common with Rats, this raises the questions, what exactly do they have in common with rats? I have heard many of them desire decriminalization of marijuana, like many rats. What else do they have in common with rats?

The principal issue Republican's have with the Libertarians is that the Republican's, like the Democrats, support a Foreign Policy Agenda defined by an extreme Liberal Democrat, Woodrow Wilson, a former political science professor at Princeton, in 1914--spend money; deploy American assets; risk American Lives; define and organize military alliances with other countries many of which do not support direct American Interests; to (in Wilson's words) "make the world safe for democracy".

Libertarian's believe it is time to reexamine these policies. There isn't any real reason to believe that these policies have made America any more secure; or for that matter made the world any safer for democracy either.

We need a foreign and military policies designed to preserve US security in North America; close and enforce our borders; centralize and focus our military assets on policies and action designed to serve direct American international interests.

I suppose a part of that agenda is that many Libertarians oppose use of American Military power to protect Israel. In my own view, Israel is part of our security perimeter so I would dissent from that part of the Libertarian platform.

Libertarians would eliminate our sole monetary reliance on fiat currency in favor of a competing use of monetary metals such as gold and silver as legal tender.

31 posted on 05/04/2012 5:09:07 PM PDT by David
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To: Think free or die

Just exactly what tactics did they do that were wrong? As you said, the guy knew the rules. You sound like a party hack trying to disenfranchise people who want to participate in the political process and don’t tow the party line. I can guarantee you the state GOP hacks were standing in front of the polling places handing out their fliers of who to vote for in many districts. They’re there most of the time I go to vote doing that. Why in the world shouldn’t supporters of another candidate be allowed to do the same? And if he is allowed to advocate for his candidate only 10 feet away, how far away were you standing when you were “campaigning” against his preferred delegates?


32 posted on 05/04/2012 5:14:53 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: A Strict Constructionist

“Either we have a delegate system or we don’t. Set the rules and live by them. I’m tired of the Rino’s and others gaming the system.”

The system was designed to be gamed. More power to Paul’s campaign for figuring out how to beat the Rinos at their own game.

I’m tired of having Romney pushed down my throat. For months, we’ve watched the media demolish every candidate who might be a challenge to Romney. Innuendos generated about Cain, belittling Santorum, lying about Newt...


33 posted on 05/04/2012 5:15:37 PM PDT by spaced
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To: Libloather

Any damage Ron Paul can do to Mitt Romney is welcome. Ron Paul is at least a radical fiscal conservative despite his nutty foreign policy. That beats Romney’s statism and socialism any day of the week. A Ron Paul presidency would without a doubt do more to solve our debt crisis than a Romney presidency would. Just maybe the party will back a candidate who’s conservative on SOMETHING next time.


34 posted on 05/04/2012 5:17:54 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: Libloather

Like Ron Paul or not everyday the Republicans come up with reason after reason to stay home in November.


35 posted on 05/04/2012 5:25:08 PM PDT by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: Libloather

This is great news! Despite the lies in the media from both the DNC and GOPe propaganda machine Romney may not get enough hard delegates to win the first vote at the convention. In the last 3 liberal states he got at most 57% running virtually unopposed. Hes not going to do any better in the upcoming conservative proportional allocation states.

So regardless of what you think of Paul and his devotees. the fact is he is the last chance we have of getting a brokered convention and getting rid of Romney. Do you really think Paul can win the nomination? No. That’s laughable. Can he force a brokered convention? Possible, if conservatives would not fight what hes doing...


36 posted on 05/04/2012 5:39:18 PM PDT by Mechanicos (Vote NOT-ROMNEY ; Take it to the Convention and do it over!)
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37 posted on 05/04/2012 6:00:45 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: null and void

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38 posted on 05/04/2012 6:03:00 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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39 posted on 05/04/2012 6:15:31 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1200 of our ObamaVacation from reality [and what dark chill/is gathering still/before the storm])
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To: Gaffer

Agreed. Disband the GOP since they can’t follow their own by-laws. Nor are they capable of fronting a POTUS candidate capable of even understanding their Party planks.


40 posted on 05/04/2012 6:35:40 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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