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End of the manual transmission?
Fox News ^ | May 02, 2012 | Thomas Bey

Posted on 05/02/2012 1:50:24 PM PDT by Sopater

Go to any given dealership with 100 new cars.

On average, just four of the 2012 models will have manual gearboxes.

The trend of the vanishing third pedal is nothing new, notes The Detroit News.

Even a decade ago, just 8.5 percent of 2002 models were manuals. The paper’s own automotive reporter even confesses she never learned to drive a stick shift until it essentially became a job requirement.

It’s more than a little contradictory to automotive reviews (including many you’ll read here) extolling the pleasure of enthusiastic driving with a true manual gearbox. Likewise, purists gravitate to manuals for tackling their favorite twisting road or occasional track day. It’s the original form of in-car connectivity.

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To: IYAS9YAS
"but the automatic gets 1 or 2 MPG better on the highway 39 (or 40 for the SFE package) for the automatic vs 38 for the manual. "

Depends on the gearing for each vehicle. I've always found I get better than EPA mileage on a manual and worse on an auto. YMMV.

41 posted on 05/02/2012 2:22:09 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Charles Martel

We had a couple of 60s Mercedes diesels that were both equipped with a four on the tree.


42 posted on 05/02/2012 2:23:35 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: ml/nj

I worked in HS and saved enough to buy a new, 1967 Mustang in my senior year - $2500. When I picked-up the car, the salesman gave me a 5-minute lesson on how to drive the 3-speed stick...and I never looked back.

Of all the cars i have owned, my favorite was a MGB - kinda of an orange color with a dark navy blue vinyl/leather interior. It was like a slightly oversized go-cart. I bought it new in early 70’s and, mechanically, it was totally junk but it was a blast to drive. Sold it less than 2 years later to a guy who never drove a stick.

Glad to see another MGB owner here!


43 posted on 05/02/2012 2:23:35 PM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: newfreep

Never owned an auto either, likely never will. Just got to keep my little WRX wagon running until I croak....


44 posted on 05/02/2012 2:24:06 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Sopater

They need to eliminate transmissions, clutches, axles, and drive shafts all together and use hydrostatic drive systems that are manual or automatic.


45 posted on 05/02/2012 2:27:21 PM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: Sopater

since 1981 my cars have always been manual. I’ve been planning for a Nissan 370z manual 6 speed (or equiv) in a few years, they sure better still be making manuals or I won’t be buying it.


46 posted on 05/02/2012 2:27:39 PM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: All

meh.. my wife drives a five-speed and it’s a pain in the butt in traffic. I owned a few and I don’t miss it but she’s under the illusion that EVERYONE knows how to drive one.

I like it but I’d rather have the automatic, especially in dense traffic.


47 posted on 05/02/2012 2:28:04 PM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

We used to have a Mazda Spyder with a supercharger, rear end engine, H pattern 5 speed. Loved driving that car and it was great in the snow and ice because you could really gear down. Would buy another one in a minute if they still made them. Always drove barefooted though, real high heels and all those pedals didn’t get along well.


48 posted on 05/02/2012 2:28:09 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Guess it depends on the make and model. A VW Jetta S the manual does better on the highway, the auto in the city. For a Jetta TDI manual wins both.


49 posted on 05/02/2012 2:28:59 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The United States of America, a banana republic since 1913)
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To: Sopater

If you’re not driving a stick, you’re not really driving. I’ve had - let’s see here - seven cars, and six were stick-shifts. I actually held out on my Saturn dealership to have them find the model / color combo I wanted in manual; I wasn’t settling for an automatic when a stick was available somewhere.


50 posted on 05/02/2012 2:29:26 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I shall defend to the death your right to stick it.)
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To: Drill Thrawl

They do screw around with the gearing between m/t and a/t, typically to make the manual “faster” rather than more efficient.


51 posted on 05/02/2012 2:31:24 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Sopater

Cars with stick shifts are almost “theft proof”. The young thugs never learned to drive a standard transmission.


52 posted on 05/02/2012 2:32:29 PM PDT by A. Patriot (Have we lost our Republic? Do the majority of Americans care?)
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To: Sopater

The thing with stick shifts is that its difficult to drink and drive.


53 posted on 05/02/2012 2:33:42 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: newnhdad
Automatics are more dangerous since just about anyone can drive one:

An example (6 yr old) among other cases that turned out better

54 posted on 05/02/2012 2:37:23 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: goseminoles
"The thing with stick shifts is that its difficult to drink and drive."<

Depends on your basic skill set....

55 posted on 05/02/2012 2:39:23 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: newnhdad

Automatics need to be banned....for the children.


56 posted on 05/02/2012 2:40:34 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Sopater

They’ve been saying manuals are dead for a long time. But there’s enough of us that won’t drive automatics to keep them going, we just get to be more selective. The good news is most of the brands that don’t make manuals also don’t make cars worth buying.


57 posted on 05/02/2012 2:41:34 PM PDT by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: newfreep

My first car was an MGA. Boy did I have fun with that car!

Never owned an automatic, probably never will. The kind of cars I like will always be offered with a stick, unless our friends in DC outlaw them.

As it stands now, a stick might very well be a theft deterrent, as so few people can drive them any more.


58 posted on 05/02/2012 2:42:04 PM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Drill Thrawl

“Since manuals are more fuel efficient you would think there would be more.”

Exactly, my C5 Corvette with a 6 speed manual transmission routinely gets 32 to 34 MPG at 70 mph on my “commute’” from the SF Bay Area down to Monterey. FYI most, if not all of the new Corvettes do not have a gas guzzler tax, and several models have between 500 and 640 Hp.


59 posted on 05/02/2012 2:43:17 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Sopater

I had an 86 F-250 with 460 and a Borg Warner T-19 manual. I did several things to improve performance including dual exhausts, pre 1967 valve timing gear and since the carb always gave trouble, replaced it with an Edelbrock performance carb.

I am not sure the Edelbrock gave any more horsepower but it sure was smoother running.

The only problem was the gear ratios were awful. First was so low that it ran out of RPM’s before you got any speed at all. Second was nearly as low. When you finally got it into 3rd it would really go then high was about right. It had an extremely good high end.

I would much rather have had an automatic but didn’t realize it until I had already bought it.


60 posted on 05/02/2012 2:49:05 PM PDT by yarddog
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