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To: Tublecane
Can rain be rain while it’s still in a cloud? NO! It has to fall before it’s called rain.
Rain is rain when it precipitates, (when it falls...@to cause (vapor) to condense and fall or deposit ) just as that law applies to children who qualify as citizens under it when they are born.
I've never said they don't qualify as citizens.
Why do you make something so simple so convoluted?
What I'm saying is that the law can't apply to citizens.

The only way it can apply to citizens is if said citizen is having a child with an alien. The law governs aliens!
The overarching precept and principle is that the child has an alien parent or parents and has to be naturalized to be a U.S. citizen!

190 posted on 05/01/2012 3:38:54 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

Water droplets falling from a cloud can be virga.


198 posted on 05/01/2012 3:57:11 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (Ia)
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To: philman_36

“I’ve never said they don’t qualify as citizens.”

I know, although originally I thought that’s what you implied. Turns out you were using some alternative argument that I’m still unable to comprehend.

“Why do you make something so simple so convoluted?”

I think you do that by baselessly insisting people are getting you wrong instead of sticking to the point.

“What I’m saying is that the law can’t apply to citizens”

Yes it can, and to the very citizens whose status you don’t deny it establishes.

“The only way it can apply to citizens is if said citizen is having a child with an alien.”

No, no, no. The citizen is the child, you see. That is the citizen it applies to. The child that has been rained down into the commonwealth.

“The law governs aliens!”

The law, specifically the part we’re fruitlessly backing and forthing on, governs when the children of aliens can be citizens. Therefore, it governs citizens: the citizens who qualify according to it to be citizens from birth.

“The overarching precept and principle is that the child has an alien parent or parents and has to be naturalized to be a U.S. citizen!”

Okay, let’s pick it up from there. What “naturalizes” the child? The law in question. Therefore, the law applies to the child, who is a citizen. Thusly, the law applies to citizens.


210 posted on 05/01/2012 4:23:16 PM PDT by Tublecane
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