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To: discostu
It’s not MY definition of new, it’s THE definition of new. A new thing has to be actually new.

So when a car dealership sells "new" cars, they're lying, because there were cars before? When Hollywood releases "new" movies, they're lying, because there were movies before? After all, those violate what you just said was THE definition.

Your definition is that nothing is new unless the entire category didn't exist before -- "category" arbitrarily defined so that a Psion is the same "thing" as a Newton, or a VT-100 connecting to a mainframe at 110bps is the same as a teraflop PC on broadband. It's startling to me that you seem to believe there is nothing "new" between the former and the latter.

No one buys a technology -- they buy products (or, in biz speak, "solutions"). I would describe the Model T, the Apollo program, Edison's light bulb, the World Wide Web, high definition TV, digital SLRs, as "new," even though there were cars, rockets, lights, cameras, computers, TVs and cameras before. They create new paradigms. They change the way people live.

Apple did NOT invent the PDA, the smartphone, the GUI or the MP3 player.

And no one is saying that they did. Straw man. What Apple fans are saying, and what even a cursory look at the relevant markets will support, is that in desktop computers, in smartphones, in portable media, and in tablets, they introduced a new combination of hardware and software that nearly every other player in the market soon copied. The component parts might not have been new, but the whole was.

107 posted on 05/05/2012 4:10:30 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: ReignOfError

And there you go with lying. The “new” in question was INVENTING A NEW ITEM, not just building a new thing.

And yes actually people on this thread HAVE said that Apple invented those thing, they’re the ones I was replying to in the first place.

Post 7:
Apple invented the product and therefore the market.

Post 32:
you will find they did indeed invent the palm held computer with touch screen capability,
And there were Newtons with phone capabilities... Invented by Apple!

So stop lying.


108 posted on 05/05/2012 7:19:59 PM PDT by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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