Posted on 04/29/2012 5:02:32 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
The Talk Shows
April 29th, 2012
Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:
FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): John Brennan, President Obama’s top counterterrorism adviser.
MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Robert Gibbs, adviser to President Obama’s re-election campaign; Ed Gillespie, adviser to Mitt Romney’s campaign; Democratic strategist Hilary Rosen; Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers, R-Wash.
FACE THE NATION (CBS): Former Gov. Haley Barbour, R-Miss.; Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa; Gov. Jerry Brown, D-Calif.
THIS WEEK (ABC): Brennan; Carly Fiorina, former CEO of Hewlett-Packard; former Gov. Jennifer Granholm, D-Mich.; Eric Schmidt, executive chairman of Google; David Walker, ex-comptroller general.
STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio; John Brennan, Obama’s top counterterrorism adviser; Govs. Bob McDonnell, R-Va., and Brian Schweitzer, D-Mont.
Well, I will continue to come as long as I can do some good.
I figure sooner or later someone will complain about me, but if I don’t speak up because they have intimidated me, how brave is that?
Really, I am convinced we have got to get Obama out and Romney is our best chance. Sometimes the Lord doesn’t give us what we want, but what we need.
Some of the big players have been axel,moochhell, Valerie the presumed current winner, Rhambo, and historically Daley.Many think that other mopes like soros and maybe even Pootie shout in from the chorus from time to time as well.
That is a great idea MM. Thanks for that effort. We have to try everything, and keep summoning all those who can make a difference (e.g. media, “ordinary” folks, office holders) back over to the good side. We should not just cede them to the dark side and make our task that much more formidible. I do not think our nominee really wants to take on a monolithic media and unified left. Maybe Newt would welcome such a challenge. But Dole and McCain certainly withered in the spotlight, having reduced their life’s ambition to attaining the nomination because it was “their turn”.
John Brennan now on FNS saying we don’t want to distrurb the mad muzzies by showing pictures of the fake OBL we killed.(He forgot to say fake)
Oh, I know. Sorry if you misunderstood. I was replying to what Obama said, not what you said.
Amen, friend! Amen!
(I’d add “Eric Holder out” to your list!)
OK. Thanks for clarifying. For those who have not seen O’s speech to the knee-padded White House Correspondents, they really should hear it: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/04/28/president_obama_addresses_the_2012_white_house_correspondents_dinner.html
A more petulant, snarky, mean-spirited child we will NEVER again encounter on the national stage. Thorough Vetting is supposed to occur (by party structure, the voters and by media). A major intel failure. A mole in our midst. Everyone of America’s enemies is synthesized into this person’s agenda. And when he runs low on venom, his hate-filled, Rev. Wright instructed wife is his refueling tanker.
Here is a long snipped from the dollar site about what may well have happened,is it 100%?I don’t know.Read it and decide for yourself.
Q: What changed the president’s position and enabled the attack against Osama Bin Laden to proceed?
A: Nothing changed with the president’s opinion – he continued to avoid having one. Every time military and intelligence officials appeared to make progress in forming a position, Jarrett would intervene and the stalling would begin again. Hillary started the ball really rolling as far as pressuring Obama began, but it was Panetta and Petraeus who ultimately pushed Obama to finally act – sort of. Panetta was receiving significant reports from both his direct CIA sources, as well as Petraeus-originating Intel. Petraeus was threatening to act on his own via a bombing attack. Panetta reported back to the president that a bombing of the compound would result in successful killing of Osama Bin Laden, and little risk to American lives. Initially, as he had done before, the president indicated a willingness to act. But once again, Jarrett intervened, convincing the president that innocent Pakistani lives could be lost in such a bombing attack, and Obama would be left attempting to explain Panetta’s failed policy. Again Obama hesitated – this time openly delaying further meetings to discuss the issue with Panetta. A brief meeting was held at this time with other officials, including Secretary Gates and members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but Gates, like Panetta, was unable to push the president to act. It was at this time that Gates indicated to certain Pentagon officials that he may resign earlier than originally indicated – he was that frustrated. Both Panetta and Clinton convinced him to stay on and see the operation through.
What happened from there is what was described by me as a “masterful manipulation” by Leon Panetta. Panetta indicated to Obama that leaks regarding knowledge of Osama Bin Laden’s location were certain to get out sooner rather than later, and action must be taken by the administration or the public backlash to the president’s inaction would be “…significant to the point of political debilitation.” It was at that time that Obama stated an on-ground campaign would be far more acceptable to him than a bombing raid. This was intended as a stalling tactic, and it had originated from Jarrett. Such a campaign would take both time, and present a far greater risk of failure. The president had been instructed by Jarrett to inform Mr., Panetta that he would have sole discretion to act against the Osama Bin Laden compound. Jarrett believed this would further delay Panetta from acting, as the responsibility for failure would then fall almost entirely on him. What Valerie Jarrett, and the president, did not know is that Leon Panetta had already initiated a program that reported to him –and only him, involving a covert on the ground attack against the compound. Basically, the whole damn operation was already ready to go – including the specific team support Intel necessary to engage the enemy within hours of being given notice. Panetta then made plans to proceed with an on-ground assault. This information reached either Hillary Clinton or Robert Gates first (likely via military contacts directly associated with the impending mission) who then informed the other. Those two then met with Panetta, who informed each of them he had been given the authority by the president to proceed with a mission if the opportunity presented itself. Both Gates and Clinton warned Panetta of the implications of that authority – namely he was possibly being made into a scapegoat. Panetta admitted that possibility, but felt the opportunity to get Bin Laden outweighed that risk. During that meeting, Hillary Clinton was first to pledge her full support for Panetta, indicating she would defend him if necessary. Similar support was then followed by Gates. The following day, and with Panetta’s permission, Clinton met in private with Bill Daley and urged him to get the president’s full and open approval of the Panetta plan. Daley agreed such approval would be of great benefit to the action, and instructed Clinton to delay proceeding until he had secured that approval. Daley contacted Clinton within hours of their meeting indicating Jarrett refused to allow the president to give that approval. Daley then informed Clinton that he too would fully support Panetta in his actions, even if it meant disclosing the president’s indecision to the American public should that action fail to produce a successful conclusion. Clinton took that message back to Panetta and the CIA director initiated the 48 hour engagement order. At this point, the President of the United States was not informed of the engagement order – it did not originate from him, and for several hours after the order had been given and the special ops forces were preparing for action into Pakistan from their position in Afghanistan, Daley successfully kept Obama and Jarrett insulated from that order.
This insulation ended at some point with an abort order that I believe originated from Valerie Jarrett’s office, and was then followed up by President Obama. This abort order was later explained as a delay due to weather conditions, but the actual conditions at that time would have been acceptable for the mission. A storm system had been in the area earlier, but was no longer an issue. Check the data yourself to confirm. Jarrett, having been caught off guard, was now scrambling to determine who had initiated the plan. She was furious, repeating the acronym “CoC” and saying it was not being followed. This is where Bill Daley intervened directly. The particulars of that intervention are not clear to me beyond knowing he did meet with Jarrett in his office and following that meeting, Valerie Jarrett was not seen in the West Wing for some time, and apparently no longer offered up any resistance to the Osama Bin Laden mission. What did follow from there was one or more brief meetings between Bill Daley, Hillary Clinton, a representative from Robert Gates’ office, a representative from Leon Panetta’s office, and a representative from Jim Clapper’s office. I have to assume that these meetings were in essence, detailing the move to proceed with the operation against the Osama Bin Laden compound. I have been told by more than one source that Leon Panetta was directing the operation with both his own CIA operatives, as well as direct contacts with military – both entities were reporting to Panetta only at this point, and not the President of the United States. There was not going to be another delay as had happened 24 hour earlier. The operation was at this time effectively unknown to President Barack Obama or Valerie Jarrett and it remained that way until AFTER it had already been initiated. President Obama was literally pulled from a golf outing and escorted back to the White House to be informed of the mission. Upon his arrival there was a briefing held which included Bill Daley, John Brennan, and a high ranking member of the military. When Obama emerged from the briefing, he was described as looking “very confused and uncertain.” The president was then placed in the situation room where several of the players in this event had already been watching the operation unfold. Another interesting tidbit regarding this is that the Vice President was already “up to speed” on the operation. A source indicated they believe Hillary Clinton had personally made certain the Vice President was made aware of that day’s events before the president was. The now famous photo released shows the particulars of that of that room and its occupants. What that photo does not communicate directly is that the military personnel present in that room during the operation unfolding, deferred to either Hillary Clinton or Robert Gates. The president’s role was minimal, including their acknowledging of his presence in the room.
At the conclusion of the mission, after it had been repeatedly confirmed a success, President Obama was once again briefed behind closed doors. The only ones who went in that room besides the president were Bill Daley. John Brennan, and a third individual whose identity remains unknown to me. When leaving this briefing, the president came out of it “…much more confident. Much more certain of himself.” He was also carrying papers in his hand that quite possibly was the address to the nation given later that evening on the Bin Laden mission. The president did not have those papers with him prior to that briefing. The president then returned to the war room, where by this time, Leon Panetta had personally arrived and was receiving congratulations from all who were present.
In my initial communication to you of these events I described what unfolded as a temporary Coup initiated by high ranking intelligence and military officials. I stand by that term. These figures worked around the uncertainty of President Obama and the repeated resistance of Valerie Jarrett. If they had not been willing to do so, I am certain Osama Bin Laden would still be alive today. There will be no punishment to those who acted outside the authority of the president’s office. The president cannot afford to admit such a fact. What will be most interesting from here is to now see what becomes of Valerie Jarrett. One source indicated she is threatening resignation. I find that unlikely given my strong belief she needs the protection afforded her by the Oval Office and its immense powers to delay and eventually terminate investigations back in Chicago.We shall see.
Now this thread is about Florida Keys weather and how to make bread pudding.
That’s exactly why I have zero qualms about voting for Romney.
And, as Miss Marple said, we could look at the lovely and classy Ann Romney instead of You Know Who.
That’s why I don’t go on the Texas threads. anyway, those people scare me.
Was there a good bread pudding recipe? I missed it.
Doesn’t matter, I cannot have any more sweets until I lose ten pounds.
There was some nice gal who would post what was said on the shows. I usually watched them later because of church.
But, truthfully, the Sunday Shows have become so boring and predictable, they aren’t that interesting.
However, I still enjoy this thread because of the rare displays of common sense one finds here.
Right.
Romney may be way down on a lot of people's list for President (I know he was right near the bottom on mine), but to quote *Donald Rumsfeld*, "You go to war with the army you've got - not the one you wish you had!".
Right now, Romney is the nominee of the army we've got. It's unfortunate it is he whom we are stuck with (I'm still voting for Newt in our Primary, and I have donated liberally to him).
But we must keep the strategic goal in mind: just who is the most dangerous and lethal enemy we face? This may be our last chance to stop them and forestall the more extreme and painful future lurking out there on the horizon.
If we fail that which is now realistically set before us in the most important task looming before us concerning the future of our lives, liberty and country, it is not going to lead to anything pretty on any level. Frankly, you can think "Soviet Union" or "Bosnia" and likely not be too far off the mark.
We have a choice. Not the best, but a choice. Unfortunately, we are not always presented with the ideal choice or can choose the best answer. We had best not blow this chance (as unsatisfactory as some may think it is) or we may never get another.
At one time, the weak Duma, the Mensheviks, and Alexander Kerensky and the Socialist Revolutionary Party looked like a pretty poor choice to a lot of Russians after the Tsars were overthrown. But was it really? The endless grumbling and competing factions of the various competing groups on the "White" side ended in them losing everything in a civil war with the weaker but unified "Reds" who were a distinct minority but who held the militarily strategic interior lines and a government which they had installed by force but which had not yet revealed it's ultimate evil nature.
I think we face much the same situation today. We can fight out the details, but only after our side wins. Trying to do it now before we win is the sure way to lose it all - just as the Whites did. Forget all our competing factions. The main goal should be not to let the Reds win!
Be sure and stop by again. I don’t know how we got along without all your input....
Gritty, what an EXCELLENT analogy, and one I may use elsewhere, if you don’t mind.
The control of the US government has been a dream of the left and a long time coming. We simply cannot allow them to maintain control, for, like you, I see a terrible furutre if we do not prevail this fall.
We need to remember that we were not given choices of perfect canidates, only those flawed in one way or another, some through political ineptness, some through personal foibles, and some through weak ideology.
I have a strong practical streak and although Romney and I disagree on a great many issues, he’s good enough for the current times. People should not underestimate the ruthless streak he usually keeps hidden, the smartness of the guy, the effect of Ann and those handsome and successful boys, and the story of his father, who rose from selling paint out of the back of his car to running American motors, running for president, and then becoming a cabinet secretary.
The Army we have is Romney. So let’s choose to help him defend our cause the best we can, rather than tearing him down to prove a point. Should we choose the latter course, generations yet unborn will not thank us, but will curse our memories.
I like hearing about fishing around the Keys and I also looked/look forward to Snugs’ sunday menus for her pop (with photos). Please keep it up.
Yes, they need a reality check.
Anybody watch the This Week roundtable with liar Krugman spewing lie after lie? He claims we do not have higher corporate tax rates than any other nation and higher taxes in states doesn’t run business off.
Tell that to California and Oregon who are losing businesses right and left or WI who is getting IL businesses.
What a fraud.
Blaming someone else is childish. He needs to be corrected but it doesn’t seem anyone has the courage to do what is right. The media is bought off.
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